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⌈ Secret Post #1941 ⌋

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[Carnivale]

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[Cabin Pressure]

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[Fallout New Vegas]

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[My Neighbor Totoro]

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[Kuroshitsuji]

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[The Devin Townsend Project]

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[Glee]

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[Super Meat Boy and The Binding of Isaac]

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As someone who used to be religious this totally makes sense. Even when I was a ~~brainwashed child~~ diehard believer I always got those kinds of creepy vibes from religious music.

It's sad that you feel you were brainwashed, ngl. religion can be amazing if you interpret it the right way, ignore the morons who sprout hateful bullshit, and basically make it yours. that's what i did, and that's what a lot people i know do. i was miserable when i was younger because i didn't know how to sift the good from the bullshit, but now i know better. and i honestly believe i'm a happier person for it.

if you don't mind me asking, did you convert or become agnostic/atheistic? and why did you do so? you don't have to answer, i'm genuinely curious. there was a time when i wanted nothing more than to just convert/stop believing/anything, basically, because it made me miserable. i probably wouldn't have been able to because even thinking about it felt so wrong. luckily i met some incredible people who helped me out, but if i hadn't i honestly don't know where i'd be/what i'd believe in. =/

DA.

As someone who went to a Catholic school between ages 3 and 15, I can honestly say I was always agnostic at heart. Even as young as 3 or 4, in kindergarten, I would question what they told me and it didn't quite "fit". So as I grew older, I moved more and more towards atheism. I'm not as militant about it as some others I know, and I acknowledge religion can mean a lot to people (and isn't always evil) - but there are things in religion I just can't support - and ultimately, I just don't believe it. I do not need or want religion in my life. I do not require it to be happy. I'm happier making my own decisions.

Could have written this comment myself. Well put.

I've had a very different experience, though it started out the same. I too went to Catholic school (up to my Confirmation) and it never... clicked. I questioned everything and overall I was just really unimpressed. I personally could have never gone the agnostic (or atheist) route because I was raised to believe. So even when I questioned (or just outright ignored) most things I never stopped believing in, well, God (or Christ). It was the things that people told me, like homosexuals were going to hell and masturbation was a sin (and so on- really, the list goes on) that just didn't sit well with me. I never stopped being in God and Christ, but everything else (outside of the ten commandments) just confused the heck out of me.

I never had the option of converting, or becoming agnostic/atheist, since I couldn't just stop believing in something I was raised to believe in. So like the AYRT, I pretty much made it my own. It was the only option for me. Some would say I'm not *really* Catholic since I don't abide by all the church's rules, or hold all their ideals, but eh. It's like, whatever. I like my little happy place where I believe that God is all merciful and forgiving and won't get smote for getting myself off, and I'm quite content to stay here.

In the end, I believe, it's what you make of it. I was lucky enough that I grew up in a decent church with some amazing priests and had awesome parents (though I never talk about this with them), so I don't have a truly horrible experience with religion like some people do. Which I think is really sad because religion has the power to achieve some really remarkable things. It's unfortunate that there's so many bad seeds in the world who wield it like a sword, use it as an excuse to judge, and just overall give it a terrible rep.

Same here.
Also, I actually took what was written as required to heart (e.g. sell all your stuff, give the money to the poor, and live off the land/charity) and was terrified that, because I live a typical middle-class modern lifestyle, it meant I was going to be tortured forever. Deciding I didn't really believe in it was a huge weight off.

"I'm happier making my own decisions."

Except I did make my own decision, and I chose Christ. Just because you made a different choice doesn't mean that mine wasn't thoughtful. :/

The central doctrine in Christianity is obedience. Obey God or go to hell (what a nice guy, eh?). You can say it's your choice to obey, but you're giving up your personal agency in that choice. It's like submitting to a dictatorial government regime that you could have voted against.

I felt a similar way. I was a big reader as a child and I loved fairy tales and making up stories and stuff - I kind of treated Christianity the same way and wrote mental fanfiction about Jesus and shit (lol). I fantasized about God watching over me in the same breath as fantasizing about members of the Animorphs watching over me (and honestly, I'd rather be an Animorph than be saved!). When I was about 10 I guess and I stopped believing in Santa Claus (I remember the last time I stayed up by the window waiting for the sleigh...) I stopped believing in God about the same time - and I really wanted to believe Santa Claus was real but I was pretty ambivalent about God - probably because I found church boring as all fuck and hated getting up on Sundays. I kind of regarded Christianity as a very boring story. At least Santa Claus brings candy.

For me, sifting the good from the bullshit has never really been an option. I think for a lot of people, at least for me, either you believe or you don't. I find that people always seem to assume that someone who's left religion has done so because of hateful bullshit, but it's often not that simple. I decided to leave the Catholic church because of its policies, but leaving was fairly easy for me because I'd realized I didn't have faith.

I've had the opposite experience as you -- I really wouldn't mind believing, but it's just not happening. There are some religious philosophies that I think are really neat, but I don't feel like I can follow them without faith.

For me, I started to question my faith after my father died. Not because I was bitter, but because it was the first time in my life where I had to think about what I believed. And my faith just didn't hold up to the scrutiny. I think when you start to question your faith, there are multiple things that can happen. Sometimes you come out of the experience with strengthened faith, and sometimes you realize you don't have faith.

Religion can be an amazing thing, but I don't think it can be amazing for everyone. Not everyone can find fulfillment through it at any given time.

For me, sifting the good from the bullshit has never really been an option.

I agree. Once you start to notice the cracks and the contradictions, it's just not the same.

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