[ SECRET POST #1943 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1943 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 07 pages, 161 secrets from Secret Submission Post #278.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 2 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[drunken-clowns.livejournal.com]

I fail to really see the love, myself. I think Careers in general are pretty interesting, and I love the fanon that's springing up for how they'd think about all this, what kind of training they'd get, what parents would raise their kids to do that in the first place, etc, though.

If I can ask anyone who's a fan of theirs: are they mostly interesting to you because they're Careers and all the Career fanon is usually put on them, or is there something about them individually that you like?

[herosquad.livejournal.com]

Not OP, but I can answer: I actually liked them a lot when I first read the books, before there was any kind of fic or fanon to speak of. Glimmer was my first favorite, and I was honestly drawn to her because of how fucked-up her situation was - not just being trained to kill other kids on TV since childhood, but the weird level of sexual exploitation of a minor involved (the see-through dress at the interview really squicked me out) hit a nerve with me. And the way Katniss was just like "lol dumb bitch" irritated me, though I understood her POV. Then Cato and Clove really started to grow on me - Cato's distraught reaction when he finds Clove's body is really important, I think, because it shows that they weren't just robots or sociopathic killing machines. They were conditioned to do awful things, but that puts immense strain on you psychologically, and ultimately they were all still kids. Their entire situation is just sickeningly fascinating to me.

Basically, I love the fanon and it's really helped flesh out these characters who were totally screwed in canon, but I liked them before I had read any of that, too!

[azelmaroark.livejournal.com]

From a post I wrote pre-movie and pre-fanon-explosion. (Conveniently titled "Why Clove is a Boss") --

I love Clove because Collins gives us so much potential without spoiling it by giving so many details that I don't feel the need to tell her story, or by giving a bunch of details that don't call to me. She's strong, deadly and dangerous in a realistic way that makes total sense with how I see her being raised. I love how Collins makes it obvious that she's on equal footing with Cato and Marvel. Her gender (as well as the size/strength discrepancy between her and the boys) is such a non-issue that it isn't even discussed, and I love the idea of a character who is so disconnected from gender stereotypes that she doesn't even think about it except maybe as an interview angle.

And as capable as she is, I love that there's also a helluva lot of pain in her situation. She worked her whole life to be violently killed on television. That's much worse than being taken by surprise that you're going to be violently killed on television, IMO. Whatever you think is going on with her and Cato, it's quite obvious that there's something going on that isn't typical kosher Career relationship (like what Marvel and Glimmer have). That's a cesspool of pain right there, and if they had any choice at all in volunteering they certainly wouldn't have chosen to go in together. Having this awful situation hanging over you while also the opportunity to have everything you were ever taught to want dangled in front of you (and knowing that you have to put your feelings aside and go on with the show) is supremely awful to me, and I'm very interested in it.