[ SECRET POST #1947 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1947 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 068 secrets from Secret Submission Post #278.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

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[ninety6tears.livejournal.com]

Ehehhehh um, FIRST of all, I have very little sympathy for somebody who gets their ship bashed if they're going to pretend that it's the same as getting bullied. I'm pretty fucking sure the latter is far worse even when it's not the type of bullying that makes people suicidal. You feel "overlooked"?! People should protect your shippy little feelings before they worry about people who are abused for their looks or their race or their sexuality or their disabilities?

And what the fuck, you can't just generalize the entire fandom as a bunch of big meanies because some of them are really ridiculous about their ships to the point that you think there's some kind of hypocrisy in the effort. You know, I'm so tired of saying that there are a lot of cool people in this fandom (comparatively speaking) and I think this may be the very last time I actually try.

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[(Anonymous)]

I agree with all of this. Every fandom has horrible people in it, because groups of people tend to be a varied bunch. But ship disagreements, ship bashing, or even ship wars being compared to bullying? Please. Some subsection of the internet doesn't like the same romances that you, and this is in no way comparable to swirlies and broken glasses.

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[harpsi-fizz.livejournal.com]

I read the comment as "If we agree that making another person feel bad in any way isn't alright, then why do we do it to each other?" The last line is unfortunate, but it doesn't invalidate a pretty good point.

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[ninety6tears.livejournal.com]

I think it's a very weak, very generalizing point no matter how you look at it. There isn't any way to argue that the people who are trying to stop bullying are any part of making other people in the fandom feel bad. It's like if a group at a school was involved in helping anti-bullying campaigns, would you call them hypocritical because they go to an average school where people get bad-mouthed from time to time?

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[harpsi-fizz.livejournal.com]

The language is strong, but I understand the sentiments behind them enough. O.P looks at the anti-bullying thing and made the connection. It could've been worded better so that it wouldn't be taken as accusatory. But you know, I come from a fandom where everyone's defensive and accusatory and it's practically become the Western Front, so maybe I'd have seen this differently if I was a Trekkie.

Can we all just agree that it'd be nice if more people could remember to be nice to everyone?

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[(Anonymous)]

Way to jump to conclusions about the OP's situation.

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[(Anonymous)]

Thank you for this. I was bullied (physically, emotionally, sexually, and verbally) both at school and by my stepdad up until high school (I moved away and was successfully invisible during those four years) to the point that I was suffering severe depression and had suicidal thoughts constantly. It took me over a decade to finally get over the feelings of worthlessness, self-hatred and shame over what happened to me (luckily there's free therapy at my college for full-time students, which finally helped me realize just a couple of years ago that what happened wasn't my fault, and I hadn't deserved it). There are still days where it hurts to remember it, but I'm in a much better situation now and I can focus my thoughts elsewhere, and hearing news about campaigns against bullying always makes me feel wonderful, because I don't want anyone to ever have to go through what I did.

I think it's horrible and selfish for the OP to think that if he/she doesn't get full protection against people disagreeing with or hating on his/her ships, then no one deserves help against bullying (okay, he didn't say that explicitly, but he makes it pretty clear that he/she doesn't really care about the way others are treated, only him/herself) That's just cruel, and it leads me to believe that said person has never actually had to suffer bullying in the real world.

There have been one or two instances where someone online has said something "mean" to me, but you just delete it and move on... for one thing, people are more bold online due to their anonymity, and arguing with the person is inviting more emails and messages, sometimes from even more people, into your life. (example: I once saw a forum where a guy was complaining that everyone thinks his bondage furry art is creepy and how everyone is an asshole. I tried being nice to him, telling him that it's okay to enjoy the things he drew if that's what made him happy, but that he had to understand that not everyone NEEDS to have the same opinions he did. I thought he'd understand, but instead he threw a childish fit, complete with extra vowels to draw out words and numerous exclamation points about how un-creepy it was and everyone needs to love it. As you can imagine, he invited a lot of criticism upon himself, and earned himself a spot on Encyclopedia Dramatica very soon after)

Personally, I've been able to avoid online bullying, because I'm in a situation where I can just ignore people who leave rude comments and just remove myself from the situation. In real life, you rarely have the luxury of cutting those people out of your life if they are in your school/family/workplace.

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