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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-07-14 05:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #190 ]


⌈ Secret Post #190 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2007-07-14 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
3. no, shipping canon does. :)

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[identity profile] glitterbats.livejournal.com 2007-07-14 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Or less imaginative. :)

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(Anonymous) 2007-07-14 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
non-canon shippers are more than welcome to leave established characters alone and come up with their own ideas instead of screwing with someone else's toys. :*

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(Anonymous) 2007-07-14 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
never said we couldn't, baby, but there's a big difference between writing a sex story between a canon couple that's 'technically' AU because it's not canon, and writing one between characters who are usually not only not romantically-involved but not even gay. i'd say those are different levels of screwing with the toys -- say, the former is moving them around on the shelf, and the latter is crushing them with a sledgehammer.

but that's only my two cents, kitten.

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[identity profile] glitterbats.livejournal.com 2007-07-14 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreeing with [livejournal.com profile] technophile, and to be honest I don't give a damn if your fic/art is canon or not. Making it believable is the important part. 'Canon' fics can be as trite and unbelievable as the crackist of pairings.

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[identity profile] jurhael.livejournal.com 2007-07-15 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
ALL fandom work is screwing around with someone else's toys.

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(Anonymous) 2007-07-14 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Why does liking canon mean you lack imagination?

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[identity profile] glitterbats.livejournal.com 2007-07-14 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
It doesn't, actually. I was just returning (what read to me as) passive-aggressive snark in kind. I honestly don't give a flying bat turd what you like as regards to shipping canon and/or non-canon, so long as my preferences are equally respected.

Summary: I was being a bitch, canon or not is all good to me.

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[identity profile] zidane.livejournal.com 2007-07-14 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Yannow, I used to care about this sort of thing (lololol Slayers fandom), but these days I just don't. Why can't we just have fandom fun and not get our collective panties in a twist when someone has a different opinion?

And frankly, I've seen quite a number of people ship something JUST TO BE OMGDIFFERENT and that doesn't strike me as necessarily being *creative.* If you can ship it convincingly--good characterization, interesting plot, then yes I'd say you are creative. Slapping two characters together and tossing characterization out the window? Not terribly creative.

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[identity profile] glitterbats.livejournal.com 2007-07-14 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Normally I'm of the same opinion, but people claiming they're better because they ship 'canon' does get my panties in a small wedgie (small, because ship fights are funny dammit. "The man who learns to laugh at himself" and all that.)

I've been guilty of that, I admit. I've shipped something just to see if I could make it believable and get the dynamic of said pairing right. I don't know if it makes me better or worse that I did it for the challenge rather than to be 'creative.' (Because like you said, weird pairing does not creative make.)

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[identity profile] militarypenguin.livejournal.com 2007-07-14 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
or PUBERTY HITS PHOENIX?

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[identity profile] radarsparks.livejournal.com 2007-07-14 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL

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(Anonymous) 2007-07-14 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
"MY E-PENIS IS BIGGER THAN YOUR E-PENIS BECAUSE CANON IS ZOMG BETTAR."

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(Anonymous) 2007-07-14 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
but don't worry sweetheart, any loving woman will tell you that size doesn't really matter when you take your tighty-whities off.

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[identity profile] glitterbats.livejournal.com 2007-07-14 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I love you two.

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(Anonymous) 2007-07-14 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
"OH, IF ONLY MY LOVE FOR YOU WAS CANON. THEN I'D HAVE A BIGGER PENIS."

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[identity profile] allira-dream.livejournal.com 2007-07-14 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
People with your attitude? Are the ones that make me go and write as much as possible about uncanon couples just because I can and also? Most of the things I write for those couples is at least somewhat original, meanwhile the oh-so-mighty-canon couples's fanfic is filled with unoriginal, stupid, boring and sometimes simply hideous fiction.

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(Anonymous) 2007-07-15 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
where did i say you couldn't write non-canon couples, ducky? nowhere, that's where. and yes, i'm sure they're so much better than all the canon fic out there. no really, i am! i totally buy it!

... oh, well, maybe not. after all, i did actually just read some of your work.

love and kisses, honey. ♥

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[identity profile] ex-impishly.livejournal.com 2007-07-15 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, I tend to prefer canon ships, since they give you more to work with. But since when does that make me superior...? Unless I just beat them in a shipping war. But I calm down later and stop being an annoying ho.

However, that's a strange response for that question. What if their fandom is Gravitation? Het shipping does NOT equal canon shipping. There are het pairings that aren't even remotely canon, but still liked, and slash pairings that ARE, or are even closer to canon with het ships involving those characters. Hell, there's even canon pairings that interract much less than a member of that pairing and another character.

Get off your ignorant high horse, doll. And don't use passive aggressive smilies. That's totally my trademark.

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(Anonymous) 2007-07-15 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
the 'question' was, "Shipping het doesn't make you better than me". PS: that's a statement, not a question.

i agreed. i said that canon does -- i didn't say what canon. if slash is the canon for your series (i have never seen this Gravitation), then you are indeed superior to those who would ship het for it. HOWEVER, most series are not slash in canon, and anyway, slash is another, separate pet peeve of mine.

oh, but i like it up here, bunny. the view is so much clearer. by the way, i'm just here having fun. you're the one who came in guns a-blazing. well, maybe not guns, per se... more like water pistols.

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[identity profile] ex-impishly.livejournal.com 2007-07-15 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Oh noes my fragile ego has been crushed. Water pistols!! My, you're clever!!!1 :o

I'm sorry that teh gay saddens you so, along with the concept of creative shipping.

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