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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-05-03 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #1948 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1948 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01. [repeat]


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02.
[Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, Touhou Project]


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03.
[Legend of Korra and The Hunger Games]


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04.
[Once Upon a Time]


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05.
[Bradley Whitford]


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06.
[Merlin]


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07.
[Kuroshitsuji (Black Butler)]


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08.
[Divergent, Hunger Games, Wither, Claymore, Princess Tutu, Puella Magi Madoka Magica, Gurren Lagann]


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09.
[GRR Martin]


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10.
[Hetalia]


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11.
[Legend of the Seeker]


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12.
[Jeeves and Wooster]


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13.
[Katawa Shoujo]


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14. [broken]


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15.
[The Hunger Games]


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16.
[The Voice UK]


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17.
[Martin Freeman]


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18.
[Benedict Cumberbatch]


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19.
[Scandal]


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20.
[Leviathan]


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21.
[Once Upon a Time]


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22.
[Steam Powered Giraffe]


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23.
[Titanic]


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24.
[planescape torment]


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25.
[schindler's list]


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26.
[Dead Poets Society, House]


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27.
[vampire bloodlines]


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28.
[vampire: the masquerade: bloodlines]


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29.
[quest for glory]


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30.
[quills]


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31.
[Legend of Korra]


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32.
[The Pirates! Band of Misfits]


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33.
[Moebius, Leisure Suit Larry]


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34.
[Transformers G1]


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35.
[Knights of the Old Republic]


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36.
[Dragon Age]


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37.
[Dragon Age 2]


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38.
[Mass Effect 3]


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39.
[Mass Effect 3]


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40.
[Mass Effect 3]


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41.
[Mass Effect 3, Girl with the Dragon Tattoo]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 026 secrets from Secret Submission Post #278.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Being an American, I'm afraid I'm not smart enough to understand what you mean by that comment. Are you laughing at Suzanne Collins for making North America the only surviving continent which you believe implies she's saying we're superior? Or are you laughing at me for interpreting it that way? Or are you trolling?

(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
First one.

[identity profile] htebazytook.livejournal.com 2012-05-04 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's the third one: they're an idiot

(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe, but you can't deny that Americans always write about America, and barely ever venture into other countries, let alone other continents. Realistically, the US would be one of the first to go. You'd probably have more chance with Australia or something.

[identity profile] htebazytook.livejournal.com 2012-05-04 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yes ALWAYS in every instance!

Most people write about their own counties just fyi

(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 11:14 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah but you're writing about a dystopia where the locations are barely recognizable. you could have picked a defrosted Antarctica and written a very similar story....

(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
I guess that thing where the TARDIS keeps visiting the UK and Japanese monster movies usually take place in Japan was just in my imagination.

As for realism, I've never read the books or seen the movie so I don't know what was supposed to have befallen the world, but you're probably right about the US being one of the first to go. Unfortunately, I don't think any industrialized country - even those with a certain amount of geographic isolation like Australia - is truly isolated enough to survive most calamities without a certain amount of upheaval and suffering. Even if it wasn't an issue of international travelers carrying a virus or whatever, the economies of the world are too interconnected for most nations to survive with their current economic and political systems intact for long if enough of the rest of the world completely goes to hell. You're better off if your population and infrastructure remain relatively unscathed, yes, but imagine a modern industrialized country with absolutely no one to trade with and nowhere to get resources except within its own borders.

[identity profile] lilya7.livejournal.com 2012-05-04 08:58 am (UTC)(link)
Are you a writer? In what fandoms do you write?

I'm an European writer. I'm currently researching about America because I have a big project on a US-based fandom coming up and I'm really trying to keep my fingers off the caps-lock key here, but do you have any idea of how difficult that is?
It's not just a matter of slang, there's a ton of tiny details I simply don't know anything about. Or worse, I might get wrong because I default to my own culture without noticing. I'm very lucky because I have not one, but two American friends who don't make fun of me when I ask which kind of milk would be cheaper or if I understood how their school system works. I still feel like an idiot for asking because it's the kind of things everybody knows - everybody who lives in that country, that is.
I don't. I've never been to the US (not yet). I have visited the UK - repeatedly - but guess what? I had to be careful when I was writing in British fandom, too, because even if we're all "European", my culture is still very different from theirs. I also cheated because I made my POV character half-Italian, born and raised in Italy.
I can't fault writers for not wanting to go through a ton of boring, crazy research and defaulting to their own country - after all, it's the one they know better.
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[personal profile] akacat 2012-05-04 03:08 pm (UTC)(link)
And there's all the stuff you don't even know to research!

Of course milk comes in bags! Oh wait, not in the US. (Most of the US, anyway.)

Or you think you know English? There's a few dozen places you can trip over vocabulary without even touching slang:

Don't try to find trainers in a US shoe store. You'll probably be directed to a gym that employs fitness trainers. If you want footwear, you need to ask for a sneaker. Or a tennis shoe, or running shoe, or basketball shoe....

Well, everyone knows that garment is a jumper, right? Nope, that's a pull-over sweater. A jumper is a type of dress, or someone who committed suicide by jumping off a building or bridge.

Let's find the lift to the first floor. Oh, none of the employees knows of any "lift", but apparently we can choose between stairs or an elevator. (Bonus confusion -- according to the elevator panel we are already on the first floor, and want to go to the second??)

And those are just (a few of) the things I've randomly picked up (but in the reverse, I'm American.) I honestly don't think it's possible to get everything right through research. Just do the best you can, then send it to a native to translate.

[identity profile] lilya7.livejournal.com 2012-05-04 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly!
A little research does go a long way, especially for bigger issues like, say, the school system, but let's be honest, sometimes we don't even know where to look for things. Wikipedia doesn't actually hold everything.

OT: the first time I heard about milk bags, I was astonished. I still am, actually.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 09:04 am (UTC)(link)
Piping in to say that The Windup Girl was written by an American and in it Thailand made out pretty well by comparison to everyone else.

[identity profile] haro.livejournal.com 2012-05-04 09:10 am (UTC)(link)
It's not just US authors though. There are TONS of dystopian works by NON-Americans that take place in America.
Edited 2012-05-04 09:30 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 06:41 am (UTC)(link)
No, I'm the anon up there and It's the first one idiot.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-04 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
I think he/she is implying that it is funny becasue a world with only Americans in it feels a bit *naive* to say the least.

[identity profile] haro.livejournal.com 2012-05-04 09:10 am (UTC)(link)
North Americans. Panem covers parts of Canada and Mexico, so it's not just MERIKUH.