[ SECRET POST #1954 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1954 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 040 secrets from Secret Submission Post #279.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[ooh-mrdarcy.livejournal.com]

Eh, we've all done it. Well, not all of us, but many have. Personally, when I was underage, I lied about my age because 1) I didn't want to make (older) people uncomfortable and 2) I didn't want anyone to get into trouble because of me. I was very careful about everything.
I've since learned that about half the people in my fandoms did the same thing.

I find it a little funny some people feel that underage people can't and shouldn't read porn. Hormonal teenagers are interested in sex, is it really that surprising?

If a kid behaves like an adult, talks like an adult, thinks like an adult and reads like an adult, I don't see why I should treat them "differently". Obviously there are some things that shouldn't happen, such as RP with adult themes (mainly smut) when there are two players, one of whom is underage and the other an adult. That's just asking for trouble. (Worst case scenario: the adult is labeled a pedophile even if they didn't know about their RP partner being underage.)

So while I feel that it's perfectly acceptable for teenagers to read smut, I do think they should be careful when it concerns other fandom related activities.

[have_no_mercy]

My issue isn't about protecting the children from the pr0nz, it's as an adult, I would feel uncomfortable reading smut I knew was written by someone who was underage, as OP says they do. Kids can do all the exploration they like in that area, but I don't want to be a part of it.

[ooh-mrdarcy.livejournal.com]

I would feel uncomfortable reading smut I knew was written by someone who was underage

I'm sure you're not alone.
Also, this made me realize I would make a terrible, terrible parent/authority figure. Good thing I don't deal with kids IRL.

[lovelycudy.livejournal.com]

Also, this made me realize I would make a terrible, terrible parent/authority figure. Good thing I don't deal with kids IRL.

You are not alone in that. There's a reason why I'm the "cool" older sister/older cousin: I am too loose when it comes to discipline and stuff like that. I'd be a horrible mother ;_;

[cleverthylacine]

I don't get it. It's not like you're making out with them. I wouldn't beta for someone underage because the communications could be misunderstood if discovered, but I figure I wouldn't want to be part of the actual sex life of 99.9% of the people whose fics I read.

What does skeeve me out is knowing that people who think of reading someone's fic as a personal sexual interaction might be reading my fics. I mean, is this why people think it's OK to tell a writer you masturbated over their work? I don't want to know. I like my boundaries. I don't think of myself as having any kind of sexual interaction with either writers or readers and I wish that those who do would stay out of my stuff because honestly I like to write, but I only want to have personal sexual interactions with people I actually know and am attracted to.

[(Anonymous)]

A lot of sections of fandom tend to treat fic as a dialog, thus the constant wank over whether there is an obligation to comment/reply to comments/reply to replies to comments. If the dominant fandom culture in (general) your section of the internet is one that does take that view of fic, it's really, really easy to be uncomfortable at the idea of reading smut written by, or having smut you've written be read by, individuals who are underaged. Your fandom socialization tells you that hey, congrats, you've just opened a dialog about sex with a minor who is in no way related to you.

Whether or not this view of the role of fanfic actually makes any sense is debatable, even if considered separately from the smut dilemme, but it's definitely common.

[cleverthylacine]

Fanfic is totally a dialogue but it's a dialogue with the characters and the world and our conceptions of those things. If I'm talking about how X character would do this sexual thing in public I have to accept that anyone out there could be talking back, full stop, because I have no control over that. But since I don't say anything in fanfic comments that I wouldn't say in a room full of fannish strangers who also might or might not be over 18, I really don't care about it. I don't think that it is wrong to talk about sex in the presence of people under 18, although I would definitely slant my comments in the direction of making sure everyone was OK with the conversation, staying factual in the area of what's safe and possible, and being sure that nobody felt uncomfortable, if I knew they were there. But I try to do that anyway because ignorance about sex isn't limited to people under 18.

What I think is wrong to do with people under 18 is to try to date them, have sex with them or get them into a personal sexual situation with you.

Which is a different thing from talking about whether it's possible for Tavros to top anyone or telling an inexperienced writer that when I read about a penis entering a woman's "womb" it makes me mentally double over in pain because anatomy doesn't work like that.

IDK. I guess what I think is that this kind of socialisation is not helpful to anyone because it's ignoring established facts, like the inability of trying to control who can read material you put up in a public forum that anyone can access.

Also, it completely skeeves me out to think that some of the people who read my stuff are thinking of it as some kind of weird sexual relationship and/or think it's OK to tell me that they fap to it or that they acted it out with their partner. I don't want or need to know about that!

[(Anonymous)]

Speaking as an rper - from what I've seen - usually t's generally common practice to ask before you get too far in/before you start if the other person is over 18. Which is about all you really *can* do.