[ SECRET POST #1958 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1958 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 104 secrets from Secret Submission Post #280.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
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Comments

[duae.livejournal.com]

Comic canon is big enough that I try to get specific on what parts I've seen/liked. "I'm a Batman fan, but only of these specific series, comic runs, and movies." I'm also a lot less picky about animated/live action than I am comics, because if I don't like the art I can't force myself though it.

[(Anonymous)]

Man, I freaking love Batman, and I've read a ton of Batman comics, but I just do NOT like the artwork for Batman Beyond. Yick.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep. I grew up with Batman: The Animated Series and the Adam West show, I love the Burton and Nolan movies, and I've obsessively read a huge swath of Batman comics. I consider myself a Batman fan. And if I meet somebody who says they're a Batman fan and it turns out they've "only" seen one of the Batman tv shows, or "only" watched the most recent movies, or "only" played Arkham City and haven't read the comics? Doesn't matter, because they're still a Batman fan. They're still just as much a Batman fan as I am, in the same way I'm just as much a Batman fan as somebody who has read every single Batman comic appearance. If we happen to have specific parts of Batman's vast canon in common as things we like, awesome. But if we don't, that doesn't make anyone less of a fan.

I get annoyed with fan elitism, and it's especially bad in comics fandom. Every time a new movie or tv show comes out, there's a wave of people ragging on the newer fans who are discovering the characters for the first time, or have their interest peaked enough to try exploring the comics. Which is so hypocritical, because I bet the vast majority of comic fans got into comics because they saw the characters in a movie or a tv show or even just saw their image somewhere and thought the character was cool enough to explore. It's frustrating to see them belittling newer fans for doing something they themselves likely did. Them doing it first does not somehow make them better people.

[lady-wormtongue.livejournal.com]

Great comment, nonny. It's especially true for something like Batman, which has so many incarnations and interpretations that it's almost unfeasible to expect anyone who calls themselves a fan to have read/seen everything there is out there.

[duae.livejournal.com]

The one thing I don't ever agree with is using one part of the canon to diss the others. Adam West is as much Batman as Christian Bale. You can prefer one over the other, there's nothing wrong with that, but I hate when people start bitching that a version sucked because it wasn't like another version.

[pikacheeka.livejournal.com]

I've run into the same problem.

I used to read hundreds and hundreds of comics when I was younger (in the 8-14 range) because my father used to collect them. He stopped in the late 80s, so most of what I read was from the 60s to 80s, and it was an eclectic collection with missing issues and abrupt stops when my father switched favorite characters. I had a lot of fun with them, but never got involved in a fandom.

Since Batman Begins, I've had sporadic obsessions with comics and their fandoms (Batman, X-Men, and now Avengers), but because people tend to notice that a) I'm "new" ever since a movie came out, and b) I don't know that much about what's happened in comics recently, they look down on me. Funny thing is, I HAVE read the "original canon", and for years I read it. It's just that because comicverses tend to be so vast and are generally much older than most people currently involved in their fandoms, it's not exactly easy to "know everything" or even necessarily be "an expert".

The movies are great gateways to the fandom. If someone sees one and is really interested, then it's an opportunity for them to start reading the comics if they want to.

I think people who HAVE been in the fandom for a long time need to realize that it isn't exactly...easy to jump into though, and try to cut the newer fans some slack. Maybe even help them along by suggesting certain series, arcs, or issues for them to consider. Meanwhile people who haven't read the comics (yet?) shouldn't pretend to know everything.

Edit* typo.