[ SECRET POST #1958 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1958 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 104 secrets from Secret Submission Post #280.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom.livejournal.com]

06. http://i50.tinypic.com/2itfyh.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, maybe it's a case of self-loathing since you're such a hypocrite?

[(Anonymous)]

Well, are they seeing the movie and saying "I like X-Men" or are they seeing the movie and saying "I am so into these comic books"?

'Cause people are allowed to like the movies. Jackass.

[vyolit.livejournal.com]

i came here to say this lmfao

[masterfedora.livejournal.com]

If they're literally saying they like the comic books because they've seen the movie, then yes that's annoying. If they mean they're a fan of the characters...okay? Also I am amused by the Three Stooges comic in that picture for some reason.

[(Anonymous)]

Nope. You're just a giant bag of hypocrisy. Congratulations.

[sparklywalls.livejournal.com]

What happens if they see the film first and then read the comics? I assume that's allowed. Not that I am against just liking the film or anything. It's just an attitude I encounter that irritates me ie. if you didn't get into comics just through the comics you're somehow a lesser fan.

[shallnotfalter.livejournal.com]

Well basically this. I never understood why you couldn't go the other way around and get into things because of the movies.. Isn't that why they make movies?

[(Anonymous)]

I get annoyed when people watch the movie and suddenly claim they know everything and are a fan. I just wish people would specify. There is a world of difference between being a fan of, for example, X-Men comicsverse vs movieverse.

[hunterwithcause.livejournal.com]

OT but the pic just reminded me that I really need to get The Pulse already. Off to Amazon, I guess.

[copulates.livejournal.com]

people can be a fan of something and not have read the original (comic)book. i don't think there needs to be any clarification on that, either. a fan is a fan. it shouldn't be a matter of who's the bigger fan.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm amused that you just came right out at the end of your secret and admitted that you're a hypocrite. Well done!

[duae.livejournal.com]

Comic canon is big enough that I try to get specific on what parts I've seen/liked. "I'm a Batman fan, but only of these specific series, comic runs, and movies." I'm also a lot less picky about animated/live action than I am comics, because if I don't like the art I can't force myself though it.

[(Anonymous)]

Man, I freaking love Batman, and I've read a ton of Batman comics, but I just do NOT like the artwork for Batman Beyond. Yick.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep. I grew up with Batman: The Animated Series and the Adam West show, I love the Burton and Nolan movies, and I've obsessively read a huge swath of Batman comics. I consider myself a Batman fan. And if I meet somebody who says they're a Batman fan and it turns out they've "only" seen one of the Batman tv shows, or "only" watched the most recent movies, or "only" played Arkham City and haven't read the comics? Doesn't matter, because they're still a Batman fan. They're still just as much a Batman fan as I am, in the same way I'm just as much a Batman fan as somebody who has read every single Batman comic appearance. If we happen to have specific parts of Batman's vast canon in common as things we like, awesome. But if we don't, that doesn't make anyone less of a fan.

I get annoyed with fan elitism, and it's especially bad in comics fandom. Every time a new movie or tv show comes out, there's a wave of people ragging on the newer fans who are discovering the characters for the first time, or have their interest peaked enough to try exploring the comics. Which is so hypocritical, because I bet the vast majority of comic fans got into comics because they saw the characters in a movie or a tv show or even just saw their image somewhere and thought the character was cool enough to explore. It's frustrating to see them belittling newer fans for doing something they themselves likely did. Them doing it first does not somehow make them better people.

[lady-wormtongue.livejournal.com]

Great comment, nonny. It's especially true for something like Batman, which has so many incarnations and interpretations that it's almost unfeasible to expect anyone who calls themselves a fan to have read/seen everything there is out there.

[duae.livejournal.com]

The one thing I don't ever agree with is using one part of the canon to diss the others. Adam West is as much Batman as Christian Bale. You can prefer one over the other, there's nothing wrong with that, but I hate when people start bitching that a version sucked because it wasn't like another version.

[pikacheeka.livejournal.com]

I've run into the same problem.

I used to read hundreds and hundreds of comics when I was younger (in the 8-14 range) because my father used to collect them. He stopped in the late 80s, so most of what I read was from the 60s to 80s, and it was an eclectic collection with missing issues and abrupt stops when my father switched favorite characters. I had a lot of fun with them, but never got involved in a fandom.

Since Batman Begins, I've had sporadic obsessions with comics and their fandoms (Batman, X-Men, and now Avengers), but because people tend to notice that a) I'm "new" ever since a movie came out, and b) I don't know that much about what's happened in comics recently, they look down on me. Funny thing is, I HAVE read the "original canon", and for years I read it. It's just that because comicverses tend to be so vast and are generally much older than most people currently involved in their fandoms, it's not exactly easy to "know everything" or even necessarily be "an expert".

The movies are great gateways to the fandom. If someone sees one and is really interested, then it's an opportunity for them to start reading the comics if they want to.

I think people who HAVE been in the fandom for a long time need to realize that it isn't exactly...easy to jump into though, and try to cut the newer fans some slack. Maybe even help them along by suggesting certain series, arcs, or issues for them to consider. Meanwhile people who haven't read the comics (yet?) shouldn't pretend to know everything.

Edit* typo.

[spider-rogue.livejournal.com]

I don't like it when fans of the movies try to come in and act like they know everything about the canon just because they've seen the movie, but I feel like when they do it's a good excuse to gently point them towards the comics? idk. I feel like there's room in superhero fandom for a lot of different kinds of fans. :)

[pinkealing.livejournal.com]

This is kind of annoying. Years back I had a couple friends who were in love with the Spider Man movies and thought they knew everything about Spiderman in general. So one day we were sitting around watching one and I mentioned Stan Lee. I was met with blank stares and questions of, "Who the hell is that?" I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

[dazzledfirestar.livejournal.com]

Exactly this. And as spider_rogue said above, it's a great moment to gently nudge fans of the movie toward the comics. It's totally acceptable to just like the movies (or in reverse, just like the comics) but implying that one knows EVERYTHING about a character just from the movies can feel like a slap in the face to fans of the source material.

Basically, yeah. I agree and I hope you told your friends all about Stan the Man. :)

[pinkealing.livejournal.com]

Agreed, there are some comics/books that I love yet hate the movie adaptations, and vice versa. But generally I try to educate myself about both if it's something I'm really into. And I definitely told them a bit about our man Stan. :)

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

LOL @ Three Stooges as the "purer" source as a comic

Pull the other one!

[mutantjules.livejournal.com]

bahahaha okay

(also kind of dying at The Three Stooges being there. I'm not an expert, but didn't the comics come after the movies?)

[thechameleonnn.livejournal.com]

But..what if you liked the movie AND you like the comics? It doesn't matter if you discovered them before or after, that doesn't make you less of a fan IMO. What DOES is just lying about it. If you liked the movie that much to talk to other fans about it, wouldn't you want to read the comics anyway?

Granted, some are written terribly. But if you were less afraid of what people thought, you could ask for recs, and then you wouldn't have to be a poser anymore.

Personally I think the elitism in fandom is stupid as crap and if people are going to judge you for something silly like that, why would you want to be friends with them anyway?