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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-05-13 03:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #1958 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1958 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-14 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
I am white, middle-class, and socially privileged. For at least four years of my life, I have had crippling depression and have been actively suicidal two of those four years.

I don't understand if white people problems are "minor problems" or "any problem that a white person has". If it means "minor problems", does that mean POC cannot have minor problems? Do POC not lose charge in their cell phones, or has a POC never realized there's no toilet paper after taking a dump? If it means "any problem", is my depression somehow unimportant or silly? Is there something I am missing here?

(Anonymous) 2012-05-14 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Depends on who you're talking to. If it's a reasonable person, it means "minor problems". If it's an unreasonable person, "any problem that a white person has". Even if that problem is something like sexism, homophobia, anti-semitism, mental illness, etc. Never mind that those "problems" have nothing to do with race and POC can have them too; anything a white person has difficulty with is automatically trivial in comparison to racism. Because the winning the oppression olympics is very important and intersectionality doesn't exist, y'know. /sarcasm

(Anonymous) 2012-05-14 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
This is going to sound incredibly douchey, but 90-100% of people who I have heard/seen claim crippling depression are, indeed, middle/upper class white people.

While depression is in and of itself a serious thing, can I just point out right now that your status as that white, socially privileged, middle class person allows you access to care that affords you a diagnosis, and treatment to alleviate it?

Yeah, you have important problems, but you have better tools to deal with them. Your problems aren't silly, but they are less pressing than people who have less resources than you.

For example, both my mother and grandmother killed themselves because they had severe depression. They did not/could not seek treatment, because even though they were white, they were poor white trash.

While I totally stand behind "white people problems" being a stupid name for a concept, I also understand the sentiment of the concept. I'm thinking it's more of a class than race thing, where the misconception is that there are more white people in privileged circumstances than there are POC.

So yeah your "white people problems" are more like your "middle class problems", where you have crippling depression that you have the resources to seek help for.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-14 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
How, exactly, is saying 'Yeah, well...your privilege means your better off!' supposed to *not* make them feel worse? Or is that your point?

(Anonymous) 2012-05-14 05:06 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not saying what you're saying isn't true, but I as a person didn't have access to treatment because my abusive father absolutely would not allow it.

I suppose it is not relevant to the discussion, case-by-case experiences don't really matter...but sometimes the resources aren't ALWAYS available when a person is middle class.