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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-05-13 03:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #1958 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1958 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 104 secrets from Secret Submission Post #280.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2012-05-13 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
11. http://i.imgur.com/BxyDV.jpg

(Anonymous) 2012-05-13 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm so sorry that others' rights to basic human dignity are interfering with your momentary amusement.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-13 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
lol

(Anonymous) 2012-05-13 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I bet you're a laugh riot at parties.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-13 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
First comment in this thread already wins the Giant Douchebag Award, impressive.

[identity profile] fuchsiascreams.livejournal.com 2012-05-14 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure how you got that from this secret. I don't know how someone is misappropriating someone else's culture just because they watch movies from different countries, or write fanfics about them. Did I miss something about this secret that I'm just not getting?
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(Anonymous) 2012-05-14 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
ahaha...what?

how on earth did you get that from the secret?

(Anonymous) 2012-05-15 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I INEFFECTUALLY WRING MY HANDS FOR GREAT JUSTICE!

(Anonymous) 2012-05-13 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
But the WHAT are the same? I have to know.

[identity profile] masterfedora.livejournal.com 2012-05-13 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
That's what I was wondering.

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[identity profile] megalomaniageek.livejournal.com 2012-05-14 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
My guess is that the missing word is "people."

(Anonymous) 2012-05-13 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I never understood what "white people problems" are supposed to be. I understand POC have an extra layer of struggles they have to deal with because of racism and other related systematic oppression, but why can't there be a lot of overlap on non-race related things?

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-13 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel like people want to treat races like a specific personality, rather than an effect of genetics.
And I find that way more racist than disregarding a person's skin tone to be creative with their characterization.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-13 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
The problem is, other peoples' cultures aren't there just to be your change of scenery or the exotic spice to season your fandom entertainment. I'm guessing that's why people might not have much sympathy for other people who moan about how all this insistence upon respect toward other cultures is harshing their squee.

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[identity profile] starphotographs.livejournal.com 2012-05-13 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
But the WHAT are the same? I think you accidentally a word or something. D:

(...Please don't tell me that I'm the only one here having trouble parsing this secret.)

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-13 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel afraid drawing POC because I'm just really afraid of unintentionally drawing SOMETHING offensive. (when it comes to this anything will piss SOMEONE off from days lurking fandom)

I'm probably going to get jumped on and get "ohh you poor white person"

but it doesn't help when people get death threats from social justice warriors when mistakes happen... instead helping fix the problem and point out a mistake (as white people we will make mistakes when it comes to this)...SJW just take it way too far...

I approve of the cause but I HATE internet social justice. I bet you guys don't do shit in the real world to help either.

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[identity profile] sandor051.livejournal.com 2012-05-13 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Appropriation when related to 1st world countries makes me roll my eyes so god damn hard.

Pretty sure Britain, Japan, or Canada will be able to cope with those imperial pig dog americans appropriating our precious cultures.
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(Anonymous) 2012-05-13 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
As a chronically ill, in-pain-all-the-time person who has to take meds that might just kill me in order to work a low-paying job just to scrape by, these same SJW people misappropriated 'spoon theory' to talk about how they don't have the mental energy to fight with people on the internet. They can shove it up their own misappropriating asses.

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[identity profile] sapphirecrow.livejournal.com 2012-05-14 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
What the fuck are 'white people problems', and why aren't non-white people allowed to have them? idgi. Not every problem a POC has is going to be a special POC problem. My POC-POV (sorry, I just always wanted to write/say that) problems on a random day are 99% exactly the same as they'd be if I was white. I find the whole idea of "white people problems" much more insulting than an author making a mistake about a culture that they haven't grown up in. It implies that POC are like a whole utterly different species that someone who happens to be white can never ever hope to relate to or share problems, dreams and thoughts with - and vice versa.

BASICALLY I agree with you, OP. Keep writing, and if someone has a problem with it, ask for corrections and make it more accurate. Shrug. Also I find "white people problems" offensive on the POC side as well as the obvious white-people-who-really-do-have-problems side, so I don't know who people are trying to fight for when they use that phrase. If no-one was allowed to write anything that they hadn't personally experienced, well... there wouldn't be much fiction around.

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[identity profile] herosquad.livejournal.com 2012-05-14 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
To be honest I don't even know what cultural appropriate means anymore. Today somebody on Tumblr sent me an anon message calling me a hateful cultural-appropriating cunt because I said I missed being able to get fresh tortillas and good Mexican food when I lived in California, so that phrase has pretty much lost all meaning to me.

Is there an actual, concise definition? Or is it gray enough that you could technically argue that I WAS being racist by bemoaning the lack of good fish tacos in my neighborhood? I'm so confused you guys.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-14 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen SJW claim that white people should never write about non-white characters. Because POC are a mystic race in which the fragile white person mind can never understand, etc.

I've also seen SJW rant about the evils of any and all charity that goes to Africa from the US, because of "white knighting" problems there. I think that's the point when I realized that dialogue with these people is impossible, because they care more about being angry than they do about making real, positive changes.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-14 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
Don't mind them, OP.

I'm mixed race and according to the SJers my entire existence IS cultural appropriation/white-washing/colonialism. Us mixed kids should just kill ourselves, ya know? Or so they say...

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-14 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
I am white, middle-class, and socially privileged. For at least four years of my life, I have had crippling depression and have been actively suicidal two of those four years.

I don't understand if white people problems are "minor problems" or "any problem that a white person has". If it means "minor problems", does that mean POC cannot have minor problems? Do POC not lose charge in their cell phones, or has a POC never realized there's no toilet paper after taking a dump? If it means "any problem", is my depression somehow unimportant or silly? Is there something I am missing here?

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-14 08:56 am (UTC)(link)
I doubt anyone (well, anyone not batshit) cares if you watch foreign movies etc. Just don't try to write/draw/ANYTHING them yourself. Anyone who still does that is an idiot.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-14 01:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder if it's offensive to call people "people" yet

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