[ SECRET POST #1964 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1964 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 105 secrets from Secret Submission Post #281.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[nyxelestia.livejournal.com]

...da fuq am I looking at? o.O

In what issue did the Hulk knock up Captain America?!

(sooo...21st century only?)

[(Anonymous)]

Butting in here, but I think some of the really good stuff was also in the 70s-early 80s (you can tell exactly when the 90's era started to dawn by the art Oh GOD the art)

It's...dated, I suppose the best word to use, but still entertaining.

To hop on to the Avengers (considering you've expressed an interest to go back a bit), I'd start with Avengers volume 3. It's set after the clusterfuck of the 90s "reboot" and is really good. Or the New Avengers v1, beware of Civil War (Don't start here, seriously.)

[insanenoodlyguy.livejournal.com]

You are looking at the art style that defined a generation of comics, I'm afraid. Rob Liefeld is actually this really decent guy. Good humor, nice to people at signings, etc. I'd have a beer with him any day, and it'd be on me. But I would not ask him to draw my comic.

For some reason, everybody started drawing like him. It was the age of XTREME characters and storys. It's where a good chunk of the misogyny accusations about comics come from. This is when females costumes went into the "forget being good in a super powered fight, how are they not shivering" territory.

There are a classic storylines if you really want to focus on a character, but I'd get some good recs from a trusted nerd friend before you dive in.

[nyxelestia.livejournal.com]

Any chance you can be that trusted nerd friend? I have a lot of nerd friends I'm willing to trust, but none in the Avengers 'verse that won't just tell me to read the whole damn thing.

[krillia.livejournal.com]

*butts in, since she's being loud in this thread*

o.o Yah. Don't read the whole damn thing. I've been reading comics for over 15 years and I haven't come close to reading the whole thing, and while I occasionally have to look up villains in Wiki, I don't feel like there's any major gaps in my knowledge (Wiki is a wonderful thing, btw. It can usually answer any question you may have in about a paragraph).

Now, if you're the sort of person who feels you have to know every single thing about a person in order to enjoy something, then you're going to have trouble. If you're the sort of person who can go "Ok, so something happened and obviously it made Bill and George hate one another" and don't necessarily need to know WHY, then you're going to have a much easier time jumping in.

The nice thing about the MCU is that it does give you some scaffolding. You know that Tony Stark is an extremely arrogant genius with a whole plethora of elaborate technology at his fingertips. You're not going to be confused by the man with the lightning-shooting hammer and will understand that he still loves his brother even though said brother is rather insane. And since The Avengers you know that a guy with a bow and arrow can TOTALLY take out giant monsters (although you may be confused why he's in purple spandex. It's...a comic thing?)

I haven't offered recs because I tend to read series for individual characters over the group things. ^^;

[nyxelestia.livejournal.com]

(Sorry for the late response - I only just found out some responses I'd made from my e-mail inbox aren't showing up here)

I certainly don't mind stumbling along with the canon background for certain characters. Hell, sometimes I forget stuff in the canon I did read and watch and then get confused in the fics. :P

Some of the individual characters intrigue me quite a bit, actually. Love Iron Man, Black Widow, Thor, and Hawkeye, especially, though I'm certainly partial to Hulk and Captain America, as well.

[krillia.livejournal.com]

Ok, individual characters I can do! *ponders*

For Iron Man, I'd suggest Matt Fraction's series, up through the first omnibus. It's become pretty bad recently, but the early issues were damn good, and it retconned in some movie stuff, such as Tony being prisoner in the middle east instead of Vietnam. It takes knowledge of what HAPPENED in Civil War, but doesn't require it as reading. But, then, most recent Marvel stuff requires that knowledge* Also, Iron Man: Extremis is an excellent story and features the artwork of Adi Granov, who also designed the Iron Man suit for the first movie.

Hawkeye just had a GREAT short that I don't think requires a lot background other than that he's been part of the team for a very long time: Avengers Solo: Hawkeye, by Jen Van Meter. It's in trade now.

Captain America: Winter Soldier TPB (not to be confused with the ongoing Winter Soldier series) is pretty good. Bucky - who was a kid in the comics, but you seem to have enough knowledge that I'm guessing you know that - turns out not to be dead and it's not a pretty sight.

John Byrne's run in the 80s is fairly-well hailed as one of the best before Brubaker (anything Brubaker is amazing, imo, but at lot of that was Bucky!Captain America rather than Steve) That's collected in "Captain America: War and Remembrance".

Hulk I can't do, I'm afraid.

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[insanenoodlyguy.livejournal.com]

I can't believe I made a friend posting Liefeld! You can feel free to PM me, but perhaps in case anybody is interested, tell me here: What are you actually interested in? Avengers, or a specific character/s from the world?

[nyxelestia.livejournal.com]

Hi! Sorry I never responded - I thought I had, but upon checking back in this thread, any responses I made from my e-mail inbox instead of coming here directly aren't showing up, so here's my response again...

I like the Avengers as a group (at least so far as we've seen in the movies). As for individual characters, I'm quite fond of Black Widow, Hawkeye, Thor (and Loki!), and Iron Man. I like seeing Captain America interacting with the others, neutral on him on his own (at the moment, will probably change after I see the whole movie once through, rather that pieces here and there); same goes for the Hulk.

(...and any good X-Men recs, while I'm here? Particularly any that center on the social/political aspects of mutants, and the school/the kids?)