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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-05-22 07:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #1967 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1967 ⌋

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[identity profile] haro.livejournal.com 2012-05-23 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
If I recall you can't even wear a cross necklace to school or something unobtrusive like that? NO RELIGION RELATED THINGS AT ALL.

[identity profile] ooh-mrdarcy.livejournal.com 2012-05-23 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Yuuuup. The crazy really hit the fan back in the 90s. The sad part? The government thought (and still thinks) that they're doing a favor to everyone with this "no religion" BS. I'm an atheist, but I hate this kind of attitude. Having a religion isn't a crime.
(And then for example Finland followed this example to an extent: students are allowed to wear what they want, but singing Christmas songs in schools during Christmas isn't allowed anymore, because not everyone is a Christian. Monkey see, monkey do.)

[identity profile] haro.livejournal.com 2012-05-23 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
I can understand really, hugely blatant religious messages being prohibited (like t-shirts with certain text), but small things like hijab or a crucifix necklace? It's just really strange to me.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-23 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
And then for example Finland followed this example to an extent: students are allowed to wear what they want, but singing Christmas songs in schools during Christmas isn't allowed anymore, because not everyone is a Christian. Monkey see, monkey do.

That might be the case in some schools, for example in Helsinki where there are more immigrants, but it's definitely not a norm. There is no law to ban Christmas carols or other Christian tradition from schools.

[identity profile] ooh-mrdarcy.livejournal.com 2012-05-24 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the info!

(Anonymous) 2012-05-23 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh please. I'm Finnish and just a few years back I got into trouble at school for not wanting to attend christmas church. I also live in Helsinki and not some backwards town.

There's a shift toward not forcing people who are not christian to participate in christmas related thing but that's just a good thing IMO. Christmas songs aren't going to be banned anytime soon.

[identity profile] ooh-mrdarcy.livejournal.com 2012-05-24 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
I used to go to school in Helsinki as well, and for a while our school didn't have mandatory Christmas church back when people were still undecided about the whole thing; we did have the traditional assembly in the school hall, though, and almost all Christmas songs were left out (temporarily). This was some years ago, and I know it was only temporary, so I understand things have changed a bit.

Thanks for the up-to-date info.