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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-06-03 03:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #1979 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1979 ⌋

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[personal profile] velvet_mace 2012-06-04 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
However -- I'd call it mislabeling if you call it non-con simply because in real life it would be abusive. This is consensual. She consents. Maybe, if this were real life, she'd be an idiot to do so, but nontheless she does.

(Anonymous) 2012-06-04 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Have you actually read the book? There are multiple scenes that contain questionable at best consent and one scene that I strongly feel was out and out rape.

Possible Spoiler Alert

Before they engage in an actual relationship he "gives" her time to think about his terms and she e-mails him saying she decided not to. He comes over to her apartment and forces her to have sex with him. The author handwaves it away later as she was just making a joke. However no one, including Christian when he was having sex with her would have interpreted it as a joke. He even says AFTER they have sex he did not realize the rejection was a joke.

(Anonymous) 2012-06-04 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
This. There is a lot of erotica, this book included, that gives the impression that a woman's no doesn't really mean no and that if it is love, if she really wants it, or if she gets turned on everything is okay and it is all right for the male to go ahead and ignore her no. It is fucking creepy and not okay, and what makes it worse is that a lot of the world agrees with this assessment.

So just calling it fantasy BDSM doesn't work. It is a common, but not okay, viewpoint. If rape is your kink, fine. But label it. Don't pretend there is consent.

(Anonymous) 2012-06-05 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh. This book has been a nightmare for me because I have so many acquaintances and relatives who just want to gush over it and I'm just o.O. It was especially bad because one of my brother's friends wanted to read it and see what got all the women so riled up and I had to be like, "NO. No, do not do any of those things. IRL it isn't romantic."

(Anonymous) 2012-06-04 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
She doesn't consent. She says no and is ignored. Read the book.