[ SECRET POST #1981 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1981 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

lol no, the president is not a "socialist"

socialism is primarily about social ownership, big government might be leftist also but big government =/= inherently socialist. obama is actually relatively conservative when compared with other global politicians

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

But compared to American politicians, he's pretty liberal. And he does support socialist-type programs, so you could reasonably classify him as socialist. Though I don't get why socialist instantly means evil. I'm a firm believer in capitalism and small government, but the idea in society that socialism = bad is absurd. It doesn't work in the long-term(my own interpretation of past and present global politics), but most people who treat socialism as a bad thing can't think on that scale.

[(Anonymous)]

Speaking as an European in a country where the current President is considered a socialist, yeah, basically. The idea that socialism = bad is very American, and generally doesn't have anything to do with actual, modern-day socialism in most civilized countries.

[(Anonymous)]

Being liberal, or on the left, doesn't make one automatically a socialist. What you are reflecting here is exactly the kind of thinking that ended up with 'socialist' becoming a derogatory term in the US for leftists because Americans treat socialism as a catch-all term for 'leftist shit we don't like'. Socialism is an ideology that has very specific meaning, beliefs etc. Not all liberals are socialists. Not all leftists are socialists.

I'm a socialist. Please trust me on this one - Obama is not.

[(Anonymous)]

I never said that being liberal mean you were a socialist or anything like that. I just said that our liberal president appears to support programs that have roots in socialist programs, and by that reasoning, he could be said to support socialism. From what I've seen, most of the left is progressive, not socialist. So, no, I'm not using socialism as a catch-all for liberal policies/programs. I can tell the difference.

You and I could be using two slightly(or not) different definitions or concepts for socialism, based on region/education/history. As I mentioned in my comment, American concepts of socialism and liberal policies are different from the rest of the world, and even in the US, it varies. You'll get different attitudes in California vs. Georgia vs. Maryland. Vastly different ones.