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⌈ Secret Post #1984 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Little Shop of Horrors]

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[Sherlock BBC]

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15. http://i.imgur.com/Jxlnf.png
[sort of porny and possible underage; photomanip, Snape/Hermione]

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16. [SPOILER WARNING for Arrested Development]
[TRIGGER WARNING for incest]

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17. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]

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18. [TRIGGER WARNING for abuse, suicide]

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19. [TRIGGER WARNING for sexual violence, rape, coercion, cult like mentalities, and violence]

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[Let the Right One In/Låt den rätte komma in]

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21. [TRIGGER WARNING for body horror, gore]

[Parasyte]

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22. [TRIGGER WARNING for abuse]

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What you are doing is making these people hate you so they'll never want to join your cause. I'm not saying "Don't call people out on what they are!" because like you said, they are doing this and they need to know. But it's the way people are doing it. ie: "Wow you are a fucking idiot and deserve to die you racist asshole." I will guarantee you the person you said that to will NOT go "Oh, I guess I better change my ways, thanks social justice advocator!" They will most likely take offense at the insults and death threats while ignoring the truth in the last two words, hate you even more than they may already do, and never, EVER want to take your side on anything. I'm sure you yourself would react differently between "Wow you're [your marginalized group]? I don't know if I can accept that." rather than "WOW YOU STUPID [slur of your marginalized group] YOU DON'T BELONG HERE GO KILL YOURSELF" etc etc.

It's not that people want you to stop fighting for your cause, because you are fighting a great cause and you are definitely right in that respect! It's that people want you to do it in a way that is actually productive and not sound like your argument is based off of butthurt. Any argumentative class will teach you that what these "SJW"s are doing is completely the wrong way to get your point heard by your opposition.

Don't give them so much credit for their great causes without knowing them.

for all we know, this is somebody who posted a persons real life address because on their moniter, a picture of Korra was a few shades too light.

This is true. But the cause behind that is still fighting racism, which we don't want them to stop doing. Just that their particular way of fighting racism is not good.

But I guess I'm defining "causes" by fighting for equality in general. Not the actions taken for them.

The worst part about this is that they think they're doing ~the right thing~ and that their reasons for doing so are totally okay because AFTER ALL THEY'RE JUST GETTING A MONSTER OFF THE INTERNET, RIGHT?

I hate the ease with which people call other people "monsters". I've seen it used a lot lately.

Honestly, before I was aware of SJWs and their antics, I was kind of hurt when they started calling me "gross" and "a very special kind of monster" and "the most hated person on LiveJournal", because I'm really sensitive to insults directed towards who I am as a person - but the insults sort of lost their venom when I realized how often they use these exact words to describe other people. Since then, I've probably seen the same small group of SJWs refer to at least two dozen other people as the most-hated person on LJ, so..

..I mean, when you put into perspective the fact that these people create entire lists on their LJs for the sole purpose of being able to keep track of the people that they've been told to hate for being monsters, they sort of lose their severity, imo.

what these "SJW"s are doing is completely the wrong way to get your point heard by your opposition.

i think so too. i'm not saying you have to be completely polite and agreeable with everything, but i think you lose a lot of ground by being too confrontational.

i mean, it's over the internet. you have NO idea what kind of information these people you're arguing with have been exposed to. there is a lot of disagreement about social issues even among sociologists who study this shit for a living, yet people basing their opinions on blog posts act like they have all the answers. it's really fucking irritating.

A lot of people come to places like this on the Internet with basically zero background in these issues at all. Which really isn't their fault. It's their fault if they decide they don't want to LEARN, but obviously they're not going to know exactly how to behave right away. Especially when it comes to issues of sexuality and gender - people from very conservative communities might have had basically no exposure, might not even be aware of all the issues that *exist* under that category, and won't know what to say except the stuff that's been said to them for years by their parents, family, teachers, etc. I feel bad for people who are brought up in uber-conservative, backwards, closed-minded environments. It's not their fault they were in that situation, but they get crucified for it a lot. Why don't we try to educate them and cause the world to be a more open-minded place? Then maybe their children won't grow up in such an environment as they did, and we're one step closer to breaking the cycle.

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