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fandomsecrets2012-06-15 06:50 pm
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(Anonymous) 2012-06-16 12:37 am (UTC)(link)Also, yes, there are some reasons an author might be hesitant to allow fanfiction- I'm thinking something like when that one author couldn't write her own sequel because a fan sued her for copying a fanfic? There are ways to get around that, though. I remember something about the Girl Genius team saying that they encouraged fanfic existing, but explaining that they couldn't read it and didn't want people sending it to them, because of legal issues. Their butts are covered, and their fans are validated, everyone wins.
It's not that I think authors need to say they love fanfic, or whatever. But it feels like a really frivolous thing to try to ban. It goes both ways- if an author has the right to dislike fanfic and ask fans not to write it, the fans have the right to dislike an author's fanfic ban and choose not to support that author.
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This was really overblown and certainly no actual 'suing' occurred. See here on Fanlore.
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There are. It's also worth remembering that a lot of these writers (the ones really against fic) tend to be pretty old. As in the "set-in-their-ways" kind of old. Some of them adapt to technology and love it, some of them still use typewriters and actively fear the internet.
Fans can certainly chose not to support an author who espouses ideas that they find reprehensible. Or even just authors they don't like. I just think that refusing to read an author's work, not based on actual merit, but because that author said some mean things and "lives in the past" and all, is far more frivolous, and to use OP's word, "stupid" than an author, y'know, the one who worked and fretted and created something dear to them (and yes, I write fic, I know it can be "dear" too, but I really don't think that's on the same level), saying they don't like something and find it disrespectful.
I mean, seven hells, if these people only read authors who never insult fans, are they just gonna deprive themselves of Harlan Ellison?
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(Anonymous) 2012-06-16 04:20 am (UTC)(link)I guess this is where I'm coming from (and I don't mean this as SJ or as identity politics, just describing an experience that I've had in my life that was important): I am gay. I didn't know anybody else who I knew was gay, and there weren't many characters in original fiction that were gay and not based off stereotypes, or made out to be gay and only gay, with no room for the basic human stuff. Fanfic provided me with stories about queer people who were not originally intended to be queer, often who weren't really planned with any thought to sexual orientation at all, and thus the original form of that character is free from whatever idea the author has about queerness and just gets to be a person. Are there canon queer characters that just get to be people? Yes, but they're rarer, and what I needed was in short supply at the time when I needed it.
For that reason, there are several fandoms I was in at the time where the source material was not as dear to me as the fic. For some, I think the canon is kind of ridiculous now, but thinking of what the fandom meant to me, how it helped me come out to myself as a young teen, it's still dear to me, even if it's not what I'd currently be interested in. I think a lot of people assume fanfic is automatically meaningless- and that romantic/sexual fanfic is really automatically meaningless- but that isn't always the case.
And I don't know, I understand that some people are behind the times, I understand that people can be rude or whatever and still create something good, it's just. I can't really feel okay about someone deciding that they're the only ones who can make something meaningful out of the story. Especially because what might be meaningful to them and what might be meaningful to a fan could be totally different things, and if that fan needs some representation of herself that she isn't getting, saying "no! that is not what I meant and you aren't allowed to do it!" feels pretty cruel to me.