[ SECRET POST #1998 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1998 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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10. [SPOILERS for the Hunger Games]



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[Hetalia]


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14. [WARNING for gore, animal abuse]
http://i.imgur.com/SjfD3.jpg
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[Video Games Awesome Live]


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[Avatar: the Last Airbender]


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[American Horror Story]


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19. [WARNING FOR general discussion of triggery topics (there's bound to be triggering material in the comments)]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #285.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 (warning for rape) - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Wait a minute, I thought autism was a disability. Are you saying you view autism as a personality quirk? And comparing sexual identity with a mental disability is kind of weird.

[(Anonymous)]

"Personality quirk" might not be the term that would be used, but many of us think of it as a legitimate and not-inherently-bad way of thinking, yes. The idea is that there's nothing fundamentally wrong about it; it just doesn't fit in well with how our society is structured. Many people with other "disabilities" feel the same way about their conditions.

People experience it in different ways and have it in different levels of "severity," though, and some people are happier when they can reduce their symptoms and can act and think more "normally." That is okay too.

[(Anonymous)]

As a major introvert, I agree. I'm uncomfortable with carrying out long conversations with autistic people, but that's because I'm just uncomfortable with carrying out long conversations with people who I don't consider to be really close to me in general.

I sympathize with them because people are constantly telling me to talk to and interact with people more even though social interaction majorly drains my energy and I really do prefer staying at home doing stuff by myself. Even though I'm far ahead of most of my classmates in terms of academics, arts, etc., apparently there's something wrong with me if I prefer to stay at home rather than go to the mall with some girlfriends.

Autistic people probably think this way. I'm not close to anyone with autism, but I bet they just want to form friendships with other people without having to be babied or ridiculed.

[(Anonymous)]

*NAYRT, btw

[(Anonymous)]

being an introvert isn't at all comparable to a condition that's considered by many people who have it to be a disability (whether they think it's inherantly bad or not is another thing that depends on how much you look at disability as a failure on the part of society or difficulties on the part of the person with it)

[(Anonymous)]

I think it is incredibly dismissive. I think Aspergers needs to be taken off the Autism spectrum, and this is just more evidence backing that up. People with autism don't have a personality quirk, and if you can say Aspergers is just a quirk that doesn't fit in with society...I don't think it should share a name with Autism.

In case you were wondering, I do have disabilities (not Autism). And I just find it really belittling and dismissive to try and label them as quirks or to just say that it's because it just doesn't fit in well with society.

Sorry. I get that everyone deals with their shit differently, this is just a pretty hot button for me.

[tasteoftruth]

I'm given to understand that they're going to remove Aspergers completely as a definition and simply say 'autistic spectrum' in the next DSM. Because trying to distinguish the two or segment them off has become futile.

[(Anonymous)]

I think I'm not explaining what I mean very well. Calling it a "quirk" seems like it implies that I'm saying it isn't (or can't be) serious, which isn't true. What I'm saying is that *it isn't an inherently bad thing.* Do you know what the social model of disability is? I could find some basic reading for you if you don't. Not trying to insult you by implying you don't know it or anything, just think it's relevant.

I'm willing to discuss this issue with you, but honestly, I'm really offended by your first line.

[(Anonymous)]

Aspergers is not just a personality quirk, it is a disability. I'm almost 30 and I can't take care of myself or sometimes understandt day to day social interactions. I've never been able to have meaningful romantic relationship or a job. I can't keep my house clean and I live on SSD. My life fucking depressing.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's incredibly dismissive and ableist of people with AS to want to disassociate themselves from autism, despite the fact that their thinking style shares ALL the salient features of ASD.

It's like "ew, those stupid low-functioning types, don't want to be lumped in with them, we are all supergeniuses, not like them". Don't believe me? I've heard many ASers say pretty much that.

[(Anonymous)]

Autism, like deafness, is considered a disability mostly by those who don't have it and a different way of life/thinking/existing, etc., by those who do. Since they don't actually affect quality of life in a necessarily negative way and many of those who have these two conditions are born with them, there is no real reason to consider them disabilities.

The OP isn't comparing the two. S/he's saying that it is widely accepted that the original Sherlock Holmes was both autistic and asexual, and the OP relates to him in that regard.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I am both on the autism spectrum and love sex, the op can go and troll somewhere else.

[(Anonymous)]

ME TOO!

[(Anonymous)]

Personally, I have a hard time with people saying something isn't a disability and then *requiring* that I (or the government) make expensive and very specific accommodations for them.

[(Anonymous)]

When you have a disability, the rest of the world expects you to change to fit their needs. This is impossible. However, it IS possible for the rest of the world to change to accommodate everyone. Having wheelchair ramps and teaching everybody sign language isn't giving them some kind of special privilege, it's leveling the playing field. And if they don't want to call themselves something that they feel implies "broken" or "less than", that's their right.

[(Anonymous)]

the idea behind the social model of disability is basically that you're impaired by society, not by your condition. so for Deaf people the idea goes that if everyone were deaf, it wouldn't be a disability at all, just normal. however, since most people aren't, they have to deal with living in a world structured around hearing people, and this is the disability.

often people also believe in a cross between inherent disability in a condition and additional disability by society, it doesn't have to be one or the other

[(Anonymous)]

It is not "widely accepted" that the original Holmes was either of those, just so you know. A few people, mainly ASD people who want him to be to feel better about themselves, asexuals who for some reason need a hero, or who don't know what either of those terms means, have said it very loudly. Not the same thing.

Oh, and OP: tough. We'll ship who we want to ship and you can't stop us. Tragic, I know. Deal.

[(Anonymous)]

It is not "widely accepted" that the original Holmes was either of those, just so you know.

Exactly. Those terms didn't even exist when Doyle was writing and for many years, no one in Holmes fandom would have used those words. While some people might have concluded Holmes had no interest in sex (without necessarily using the term "asexual") no one would have been thinking along the lines of Aspergers until... what, the 1980s?

There's other ways to interpret the original character. Personally, I've always gone with Jeremy Brett's manic-depressive interpretation, but that's probably because the Granada series was the first adaptation I watched after reading the canon and with the sheer number of episodes, it remains a major influence on my understanding of Sherlock Holmes.