[ SECRET POST #1998 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1998 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Peter Gabriel]


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10. [SPOILERS for the Hunger Games]



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11. [WARNING for abuse]



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12. [WARNING for rape]

[Hetalia]


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14. [WARNING for gore, animal abuse]
http://i.imgur.com/SjfD3.jpg
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[Video Games Awesome Live]


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[Avatar: the Last Airbender]


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[American Horror Story]


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18. [WARNING for dub-con, grooming, brainwashing]



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19. [WARNING FOR general discussion of triggery topics (there's bound to be triggering material in the comments)]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #285.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 (warning for rape) - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[itstopped]

Here's my problem, though: I have a trigger that, while uncommon, is not extremely out of the ordinary (fire/people being harmed by fire, specifically). It's a pretty "valid" trigger, for whatever that's worth, since I almost literally died in a fire about half a year ago.

I get when people don't warn for it generally and I'm pretty patient with people who don't know it's a problem for me. What bothers me is that a lot of people who do know completely forget on a regular basis, and I've been confronted several times in the last month alone with scenes of fires, people dying in fires, and even an instance where a character's house burned down and she was hospitalized and it looked almost identical to my memory of my own event. Really fucking triggering stuff! And every time, I've confronted the person (again, only people who already knew very well about this issue for me), and gotten, "Oh, sorry! I wasn't thinking! Oops!"

And even that wouldn't piss me off... except that I regularly come on fandomsecrets, blogs, etc., that practically eviscerate people for not including the more "standard" warnings. I was involved in a rape plot in a game a while back and even with warnings, people got upset because... I don't know, it existed, I guess.

The point being, if we're going to be ultrasensitive about one thing and then completely leave other people out in the cold, I don't get the point. And I realize not everything can be reasonably warned for, but... I don't know, I've just experienced so much damn insensitivity over the last few months because I had a horrible life experience that many other people have had, but not one that's been popularized in fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

Good point! I never thought of that before. Thank you for bringing that up.

I think that if something could literally harm/kill someone it should be warned for. Those people who didn't listen to you are dicks and probably don't even understand what a trigger is besides something that is required to be tagged in a fic.

But I think what people are getting fussy about is that there's a difference between a scene that uses fire in a bunsen burner in a laboratory and a scene where a house burns down. One is an everyday occurrence; another is a horrible, traumatizing experience. To people with a disability, ableism (whether intentional or not) is an everyday occurrence (at least in my experience as a mentally ill person it is). Warnings for the mental illness/fire/extreme life changing thing are needed, but warnings for every day occurrences just aren't.

Also IMO, something burning down sounds like a pretty important plot point unless it's a throwaway sentence that's talking about house fires; those fic writers are either really nonchalant about setting imaginary fires or really shitty at writing summaries.

[itstopped]

No, they definitely understand triggers -- they've all, to a woman, universally admitted that they just forgot about mine because it's not one of the standard three (rape/gore/child abuse), because of the way those triggers are so often expounded upon/drilled into everyone's heads.

This is actually slightly tangential to the issue because most of these didn't happen in fic summaries, I guess? (Although I'm not sure why a fic would necessarily include it in a standard summary -- I tend to be brief with my summaries and even now I'm not sure I'd include it in one unless it was the main thing that happened in the fic, although you can bet I'd put a warning up). But the fact still remains that in general, in fandom, some triggers are definitely prioritized, and it's gotten to the point where if you don't warn for X thing that might possibly somewhere ever offend someone you're a huge unrepentant douchebag, but it's totally cool to forget to warn for a major thing that you know affected a person in your immediate vicinity. Because, I don't know, mine's not a social justice issue, I guess?

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AYRT: Oh, what I meant about not understanding triggers is that I mean they've probably never been triggered themselves so they don't understand why the warning is important.

Yeah, I don't know. I'm sorry that's happening to you though. If I ever write (really really bad) fanfiction again and it includes fire, I'll make sure to warn for it. Thanks for giving me something to think about.

[itstopped]

They're even people who have triggers of their own, crazily enough. I don't know, man. Priorities, I guess. I have to admit that some of my upset comes from the fact that I'm generally pretty damn considerate of other people's triggers, or at least try to be.

I appreciate that, though, thank you. I'm working through my issues and I've come pretty far, but like, I'm still dealing with physical damage from the fire and there's a lot that's still going on, and it makes it harder to be okay mentally.

[(Anonymous)]

How I handle stuff like that is I actually keep a list of non-standard triggers that my frequent readers/followers/whatever have asked me to warn for- even if I can't always remember everything off the top of my head, I have an easy reference list to turn to.

Of course, I've got less than a dozen regulars (not all of whom even have triggers in the first place), so it's not exactly hard to keep track... still, I suspect it wouldn't be that hard to scale up at least for roughly fandom-normal levels of popularity.