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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-06-22 06:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #1998 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1998 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Hetalia]


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14. [WARNING for gore, animal abuse]
http://i.imgur.com/SjfD3.jpg
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[Video Games Awesome Live]


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[Avatar: the Last Airbender]


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[American Horror Story]


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19. [WARNING FOR general discussion of triggery topics (there's bound to be triggering material in the comments)]


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(Anonymous) 2012-06-23 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
Good point! I never thought of that before. Thank you for bringing that up.

I think that if something could literally harm/kill someone it should be warned for. Those people who didn't listen to you are dicks and probably don't even understand what a trigger is besides something that is required to be tagged in a fic.

But I think what people are getting fussy about is that there's a difference between a scene that uses fire in a bunsen burner in a laboratory and a scene where a house burns down. One is an everyday occurrence; another is a horrible, traumatizing experience. To people with a disability, ableism (whether intentional or not) is an everyday occurrence (at least in my experience as a mentally ill person it is). Warnings for the mental illness/fire/extreme life changing thing are needed, but warnings for every day occurrences just aren't.

Also IMO, something burning down sounds like a pretty important plot point unless it's a throwaway sentence that's talking about house fires; those fic writers are either really nonchalant about setting imaginary fires or really shitty at writing summaries.
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[personal profile] itstopped 2012-06-23 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
No, they definitely understand triggers -- they've all, to a woman, universally admitted that they just forgot about mine because it's not one of the standard three (rape/gore/child abuse), because of the way those triggers are so often expounded upon/drilled into everyone's heads.

This is actually slightly tangential to the issue because most of these didn't happen in fic summaries, I guess? (Although I'm not sure why a fic would necessarily include it in a standard summary -- I tend to be brief with my summaries and even now I'm not sure I'd include it in one unless it was the main thing that happened in the fic, although you can bet I'd put a warning up). But the fact still remains that in general, in fandom, some triggers are definitely prioritized, and it's gotten to the point where if you don't warn for X thing that might possibly somewhere ever offend someone you're a huge unrepentant douchebag, but it's totally cool to forget to warn for a major thing that you know affected a person in your immediate vicinity. Because, I don't know, mine's not a social justice issue, I guess?

(Anonymous) 2012-06-23 05:48 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT: Oh, what I meant about not understanding triggers is that I mean they've probably never been triggered themselves so they don't understand why the warning is important.

Yeah, I don't know. I'm sorry that's happening to you though. If I ever write (really really bad) fanfiction again and it includes fire, I'll make sure to warn for it. Thanks for giving me something to think about.
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[personal profile] itstopped 2012-06-23 05:57 am (UTC)(link)
They're even people who have triggers of their own, crazily enough. I don't know, man. Priorities, I guess. I have to admit that some of my upset comes from the fact that I'm generally pretty damn considerate of other people's triggers, or at least try to be.

I appreciate that, though, thank you. I'm working through my issues and I've come pretty far, but like, I'm still dealing with physical damage from the fire and there's a lot that's still going on, and it makes it harder to be okay mentally.