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I'm not surprised the person blindly defending stripping Watson of war experience and a medical license as somehow being good positive things would think that the point of view of forcing someone into an arranged marriage was the pov to root for.

You are an idiot. Shut up about things until you've passed the age of twenty five and stop telling WOMEN IN THE MILITARY how their pov aren't valid because oh noes they don't blindly like a badly genderswaped character that you are stanning because she has girl parts.

Did you even watch the film, or are you just looking for an excuse to be an asshole?

lol genderswaped

You caught me! I am in favor of forcing all women into arranged marriages! That's why I sympathized with Elinor! Not because I empathized with her frustration at trying to teach Merida things that Elinor knew would be useful in the future while Merida didn't listen.

And I hate women in the military! Also, I love all female characters only because they are women! That's why I support Joan Watson! Not because I support an attempt to give a woman a role that they have been traditionally excluded from! And certainly not because I think more visibility in media for women of color is a good thing!

How did you find me out?

But Joan Watson isn't Watson anymore. It's just the name Watson slapped onto a woman. Stripping the character of military experience and her medical license takes away major parts of what has ALWAYS made Watson, Watson. There'd be a lot less people having issues if they'd a) kept Watson history the same or b) decided to just make it a new character.

HEY you seem to have forgotten that that secret was YESTERDAY

in a completely different post even

Are you posting after taking your Ambien again??

'cmon fauxkaren was implying that we didn't support Watson being cast as a woman when really I'm pretty sure everyone from yesterday's thread would have have been flailing about Liu!Watson if TPTB hadn't stripped her of her military service.

Though I think original anon was being pretty unfair to fauxkaren to begin with.

everyone from yesterday's thread would have have been flailing about Liu!Watson if TPTB hadn't stripped her of her military service.

i d t s

also I'm not arguing about this here BECAUSE IT WAS YESTERDAY, THE POST IS STILL THERE TO ARGUE IN, but I have to laugh at anyone who thinks that Watson's military service is ~A CRUCIAL PART OF THE CHARACTER~ There were like one or two throwaway mentions of it in the original ACD novels and it had zero to do with Watson as a character in any way. It's just been played up in recent adaptations -- especially, and suspiciously, the BBC one -- because it is cool and gives woobie Watson a chance to experience PTSD.

"Sherlock Holmes experts" around here sure do have a very selective memory that seems to skip right over anything that isn't Cumberbatch and that other guy :333

Anyway, the furious tears are delicious, simply delicious, and I welcome them for years to come. and in before locked.

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(Anonymous) - 2012-07-11 03:32 (UTC) - Expand

Wow, that was a pretty gross comment. An anon addressed someone faukaren brought up in a nice civilized way and you throw around "har har you drugs that has you fucked up" remarks?

I mean would you like me to say shit like "Hey you posting without taking your meds again?"

"har har you drugs that has you fucked up"

LMAO have you ever taken Ambien? Us merry band of brothers often lament how we end up browsing on it because of the posts that result. Calm yourself.

Maybe you need to TAKE YOUR KLONOPIN

*POKES THE WASP NEST, POKES IT*

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anonymouslyyours - 2012-07-11 00:07 (UTC) - Expand

I don't think that's actually true, possibly same anon? I don't feel like Sherlock really did much with Watson's military experience other than the pilot episode (and his psychosomatic limp was completely gone after that, of course).

Not to say that you don't have the objection to it for that reason, but most of the vitriol I've seen is based on the fact that Lucy Liu somehow removes the gay from Sherlock/Watson and oh god a woman, let alone a POC woman getting in the way of our queer baiting programming!

I'm waiting to see how the lack of military history plays out. It'd have been nice to see an example of a WOC solider on the television and I am curious as to why they felt to make the switch, but I'm not going to cast it out completely.

I'm not the same as grudgey anon, but I wanted to address the point.

The thing you have to remember is that for some of us we aren't just comparing this to Sherlock. We're comparing this to all the different Holmes adaptions and going "but why is the military background suddenly gone when its a woman Watson?"

And maybe you need to hang out in different places? Because most of objections I've seen and heard have been about them radically changing Watson's history in a way that's sort of insulting. The only time I see the "But ewww a girl" stuff is from people defending Elementary.

I specifically remember us talking about mouse Watson being an active doctor and a veteran.

I've seen the "ew a girl/POC" reaction pretty much everywhere. I've seen a few reasonable points about the erasure of her military background, which I am also considering and still wondering why that decision was made.

I think it's hard on both sides of people that are reasonable to continue to recognize reasonable arguments when they're bombarded with ridculous ones.

It's nice to hear you admit it.

rofl this whole thread is killing me. You have got to be joking.

I would never joke about srs buisness.

(It would have been clearer if I had my

Cersi icon on DW to respond back with)

oh phew. okay.

Depressing, though, that I thought it could have been real, don't you think? :(

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miarrow - 2012-07-11 04:07 (UTC) - Expand

Have you had your break today?

We all need to get away.

There's one place that's on your way!

Have you had your break today?

Arranged marriage in Brave isn't the travesty against social mores that it would be in our western world. Rooting for Elinor does not equal rooting for forced marriage. It's acknowledging that she had good qualities that deserve admiration, including the ability to see the other side and adjust her position.

Also, grudge much?

No kidding..

Holy grudgewank, Bat-anon.

Fight about your other fandom in a thread dedicated to it, if you must. Sheesh.

Are you fucking kidding me.

You are an idiot. Shut up about things until you've passed the age of twenty five and stop telling WOMEN IN THE MILITARY how their pov aren't valid because oh noes they don't blindly like a badly genderswaped character that you are stanning because she has girl parts.

not until you stop being ageist and stop telling WOMEN IN GENERAL that their opinions are wrong because you say so.

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