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Comments

Re: SO WHO HERE HAS EVER SEEN A 'GHOST'?

[sandor051.livejournal.com]

Watching this thread closely.

Because it's always surprising the number of normal well adjusted people who believe in ridiculous shit like ghosts.

Respecting their posts and opinions then bam, talking about the spiritual presence they've felt.

Re: SO WHO HERE HAS EVER SEEN A 'GHOST'?

[(Anonymous)]

Actually hauntings are real...just not spiritual. Low vibrating sounds are usually found in very "haunted" spaces. And when these sounds are amplified, they cause sickness in humans, or that "dread" feeling. They even cause the eyes to vibrate-Which explains shadows/spectral sightings.

Re: SO WHO HERE HAS EVER SEEN A 'GHOST'?

[ryttu3k]

Ooh - yeah, like the Vic Tandy case. Infrasound can be caused by a lot of very mundane things, so it's not surprising some places get a reputation for being 'haunted'.

Sleep paralysis might also explain quite a bit (hallucinations and the feeling of dread), as well as explaining alleged alien abductions. The mind (and physical phenomena) can do a hell of a lot of interesting stuff!

Re: SO WHO HERE HAS EVER SEEN A 'GHOST'?

[(Anonymous)]

It's not at all surprising to me how many people are so fucking closed-minded.

Re: SO WHO HERE HAS EVER SEEN A 'GHOST'?

[(Anonymous)]

Why on earth do you even care what anyone does or doesn't believe?

Re: SO WHO HERE HAS EVER SEEN A 'GHOST'?

[cloud_riven]

I feel this way when people throw up the feminism/politics/mako/etc. bouquet.

I just like to see and go, "ahhhhh. That person's values don't jive with mine. Oh well. Still would buy them coffee."

Re: SO WHO HERE HAS EVER SEEN A 'GHOST'?

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like the person you were replying to was saying something closer to: "That person I thought was intelligent and logical is really a moron. What a pity."

Re: SO WHO HERE HAS EVER SEEN A 'GHOST'?

[cloud_riven]

I know. I didn't want to validate the doucheosiy of it though.

Re: SO WHO HERE HAS EVER SEEN A 'GHOST'?

[sandor051.livejournal.com]

This isn't a conflict of values (except in the loosest sense I suppose).

This is reasonably educated, otherwise intelligent people, believing in FUCKING GHOSTS, this is along with horoscopes like the example I'd use to compare the dumb shit people believe in to.

I'm sorry but we're big boys and girls, and pointing out fucking ghosts (I can't emphasise this enough - we're talking about literal fucking ghosts! Ghosts!) is a ridiculous belief is not being douchey.

They self evidently don't exist by any reasonable measure, and we shouldn't patronise people (like you're doing) that they can just hold these beliefs unchallenged, because like that's just their opinion man.

Re: SO WHO HERE HAS EVER SEEN A 'GHOST'?

[cloud_riven]

Nah. Conviction and opinion are similar, but not the same.

Re: SO WHO HERE HAS EVER SEEN A 'GHOST'?

[(Anonymous)]

Umm, no. You're the one who's being patronizing, condescending, and incredibly insultingly dismissive here. If you don't believe that ghosts exist then that's perfectly fine. Your attitude however sucks and you seem to be taking other people believing in something you don't as some sort of personal insult.

Re: SO WHO HERE HAS EVER SEEN A 'GHOST'?

[(Anonymous)]

lol but horoscopes are fun. I don't 'believe' in them in any literal sense but I've learned a lot about them because they're enjoyable to me, in the same way as learning the rules of a game is enjoyable. I'm sure a lot of people feel the same way about ghosts and ghost lore. It's a lot like having a fandom.

Re: SO WHO HERE HAS EVER SEEN A 'GHOST'?

[fadeinthewash]

You sound like the kind of person who ruins the annual ghost story thread on Fark at Halloween. Also,

pointing out fucking ghosts ... is a ridiculous belief is not being douchey.

It is when you do it in a douchey way. Which you are now doing, ftr, between the repeated use of 'ridiculous,' the use of 'shit' as a substitute noun for 'this thing people believe in,' and, arguably, all the angry-sounding swearing everywhere. I say this as someone who "believes" in "ghosts" for the fun spooky aspects and otherwise argues against people claiming they exist (or at least the evidence they present). Issuing personal attacks sure doesn't change anyone's mind.

Re: SO WHO HERE HAS EVER SEEN A 'GHOST'?

[anonymouslyyours]

OT but you Fark?!?

Re: SO WHO HERE HAS EVER SEEN A 'GHOST'?

[fadeinthewash]

lol, yes! Wow, first you mention Marfa, and now you know Fark. High five, buddy. :)

Re: SO WHO HERE HAS EVER SEEN A 'GHOST'?

[fingalsanteater]

What what what!? Hello fellow Farkers!

What are your handles?

Re: SO WHO HERE HAS EVER SEEN A 'GHOST'?

[fadeinthewash]

ChimbleySweep for me, though I don't comment much. (Though apparently these days if there's a thread filled with raging sexism, I'm there. Owie.)

Re: SO WHO HERE HAS EVER SEEN A 'GHOST'?

[anonymouslyyours]

My handle is lemonysprite. I too am a lurker! I do have an account but I think I've commented twice?

Re: SO WHO HERE HAS EVER SEEN A 'GHOST'?

[loki]

just hold these beliefs unchallenged

Yeah, up to a point you know? I don't go around screaming insults at everyone who I disagree with, even if I am a skeptical atheist who thinks religion is silly. "I will challenge and challenge you until you change your mind" is shit that many people try to pull, for all sorts of reasons, but it doesn't tend to be too productive taken to an extreme (that you may be arguing is always appropriate?). Like the douchebags who desecrate Indigenous sacred sites and then say "well it's just superstition innit?"

Yeah sure, say you don't believe in something, speak up, say why, I do, but going around telling people they're stupid and patronisable ad infinitum.. well, it's taking the authority of science a little too far into the territory of moral absolutism. And that shit is never pretty.

Re: SO WHO HERE HAS EVER SEEN A 'GHOST'?

[(Anonymous)]

There was this one lady who would stalk Andrew station in South Boston. Whenever I was waiting for a bus she would hound me, trying to get me to renounce my atheism and believe in god. And she. never. left. me. alone. No matter how many times I told her 'no thanks'. She even went as far as to say I "believed" in the Epic of Gilgamesh, so why couldn't I believe in the bible, right after I started pointing out historical basis for the thing (I was very tired at this point, and sick to death of her harassing me) It was the most annoying thing ever.

Sometimes certain beliefs should just be left alone, because it comes off as douchebaggery when you just can't take "no" for an answer. Ah well.

Re: SO WHO HERE HAS EVER SEEN A 'GHOST'?

[loki]

Oh gawd, that woman would shit me to tears. Sure, she believed what she was doing was ~right~ and ~noble~, but her eternal soul needs a good slapping around.

All Christians who've come into my sphere have given up at some point. Even the personally invested ones. For which I am truly grateful.

Re: SO WHO HERE HAS EVER SEEN A 'GHOST'?

[(Anonymous)]

will you people quit bitching. I'm an atheist and even I'm down for strange personal experiences every once in a while. That I don't believe it doesn't mean reading about them isn't fun.

Re: SO WHO HERE HAS EVER SEEN A 'GHOST'?

[fingalsanteater]

How is it surprising, really? Approximately 80% of the people on Earth believe in a higher spiritual presence.

Re: SO WHO HERE HAS EVER SEEN A 'GHOST'?

[(Anonymous)]

ditto this.

I'm continually surprised when ghost threads and conversations come up and people who I otherwise admired as smart, RATIONAL and intelligent people.

Divulge into "THEY'RE REAL OK"


It's just, it's similar to finding out if my normal sane friend sees a fortune teller every week, or sincerely believes in scientology, or takes horoscopes literally or believes in god but apparently religion and ghosts are untouchable in the world of prove-it

Re: SO WHO HERE HAS EVER SEEN A 'GHOST'?

[veronica_rich]

Why does it matter? Let people have their stuff. Until they're trying to get Congress to pass laws based on it, I don't even care.