[ SECRET POST #2021 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2021 ⌋

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Comments

[naoto_fuyumine]

Please point out the BS in the Mako hate, anon, cause I want to like him (again), too. It's not like I enjoy hating one of the mains.

And no straw man arguments like "Amon/Tarrlok/Tahno are much worse than him why aren't they bashed as much". Fact is that they're presented as villains who are punished for their bad deeds. Meanwhile, Mako is a dick to Asami, does never show any shame or guilt when she calls him out on his BS, does not acknowledge that their relationship got messy because of HIM and yet he still gets his TRU WUV Korra.

[miarrow]

Yeah, I really wanted to like Mako, but the only time they wrote his character consistently was when he was being a dick.

[naoto_fuyumine]

Mako's character is such a mess, that I can't tell if he is IC in most of the fics I read. The only thing I end up being sure about is "Canon!Mako would never act so classy in this situation".

[habilelapin]

This. All of this. I just don't get where they're trying to go with his character.

[avatarmn]

I think people are jumping the gun on judging how Mako is treated "by the show", and on complaints about the finale in general. I'm not assuming Mako's comeuppance isn't still coming, or Korra having to earn her spiritual awakening isn't still coming.

[habilelapin]

Man, I want to see him get it so bad, and I have faith that the creators will own that shit. I want to see Korra being a badass bitch too.

[writerserenyty]

Meanwhile, Mako is a dick to Asami, does never show any shame or guilt when she calls him out on his BS, does not acknowledge that their relationship got messy because of HIM and yet he still gets his TRU WUV Korra

This!

I don't think people would be so pissed off about Mako being an asshole if he got called out on it. Rather, he's an asshole and everything ends up great for him.

[republicanism.livejournal.com]

my god yes

i was surprised that i ended up hating him because i normally LOVE characters who are dicks (because i am a dick) but... it's almost like the show didnt make his dickery blatant enough to be enjoyable

also most writers cant write established romantic relationships (korra/mako) for shit so im concerned for s2 tbh

[(Anonymous)]

the stupid i was referring to was stuff like whining that mako can suddenly shoot lightning in the finale (he had done so several times before the finale, but this fandom is so full of hate that many didn't even remember that and jumped to whine instead). there's also those rabid haters that insist that mako would be abusive towards korra as well, based on his being upset with her over the sato thing, and even ridiculous comments about it proving he'd be abusive because he jacked up a equalist when he thought they had kidnapped korra.

this fandom's mako hatred has been beyond ridiculous, and i've seen some insane bs coming from mako haters, so don't act like the only haters are just upset with the way he handled the stupid triangle. check the tags on tumblr, people are being completely ridiculous.

but oh well, it's only made me like him more. good job, haters. good job!

[world_eater]

but oh well, it's only made me like him more. good job, haters. good job!

You know, this thinking strikes me as so odd, are you "showing it" to the haters by liking him more, do you win some imaginary battle or why are you so proud of it?
And what is a reasonable explanation for liking him more because others hate him other than "I want to be edgy" or "I want to be troll-y"?

[(Anonymous)]

edgy or trolly? nah, it just happened. just watching people lose their shit over mako is really putting me on his side.

[(Anonymous)]

Lmao. Life achievement.

[(Anonymous)]

Here's the BS in it, since so far it only seems like you've got a train of people agreeing with you and you probably could use the other viewpoint: the only thing Mako has done wrong is that he sucks at being a boyfriend. That is it. He's never had a relationship before, and he obviously isn't good at being considerate. But he's also the one who took care of his brother, and he risks his well-being to save Bolin from the Equalists. He goes with Korra when she confronts Amon because he thinks someone needs to back her up.

Yes, he was inconsiderate of Asami. But I think Asami knew exactly what was going on and let him off the hook rather than maintain the status quo.

The thing is, I'd buy into the criticisms a little more if people were united about what Mako should have done with Asami. Should he have stayed with her despite the fact that he loved someone else more than her? That's what fandom seems to be saying... that because he was already in a relationship with Asami, that he should put aside whatever other feelings he has for someone, even if they're stronger, and stay with someone who might not be right for him?

Don't get me wrong. He was a terrible boyfriend. But for fuck's sake, there is so much more to this series than romantic relationships.

[naoto_fuyumine]

First off, thanks for explaining your POV, I do appreciate it. I don't know if you'll return to read this, but here goes:

1. We actually don't know if Mako had a gf before or not.

2. I have yet to see anyone insist that Mako should have stayed with Asami, no matter what. You didn't actually adress any of my problems with how Mako treated Asami, except call him " inconsiderate". He never shows guilt or shame when she confronts him about the kiss. What does that imply about him? That he sees nothing wrong about his behavior. And then he's like " Ooooh, it's not the time to have this talk!" . Even though they are at Tenzin's home and nothing bad is going down right now. But Mako totally has time to sweettalk Korra and lean in to kiss her ( confirmed by the creators, btw) while they hide at hobo camp. With Asami sleeping only a few meters away. And she is still his gf at the time.
You know, that comes of as Mako being a shameless cheater.

And the other problem is, beyond episode 3 we see "Mako the boyfriend" with rare cameo appearances from "Mako the brother". Basically, most of Mako's characterzation is him being a terrible boyfriend. A terrible boyfriend who almost never gets called on his shit, except in episode 10 but at this point he does not give a fuck about Asami's opinion.

We are supposed to cheer for Mako/Korra even though Mako is hypocritical douche who gets rewarded for being an ass and whose cheating is glorified as romantic.

So because the series is not all romance, we should just let it go? As I said, 80 percent of Mako's characterization, such as it is, hinges on the badly written romance. A charcter does not need to be a horrible villain to be disliked. What gets the audience's goat is the crazy dissonance between how we're supposed to perceive him ( somewhat confused but totally dreamy love interest) and how he comes of (shamless, hypocritical , cheating douche with a badly written crush on Korra).