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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-08-04 03:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #2041 ]


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Re: Chicachicafilla

(Anonymous) 2012-08-04 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
OP from the post below this one

I didn't see this when I posted, so it's kind of amusing me that's it right above mine.

But yeah. The whole situation is making me so mad. First, like you said, the majority is not fucking oppressed.

All I seem to hear is that whining about the First Amendment, but people don't seem to understand that it's not a First Amendment issue. It's not about free speech, or them saying things I (and lots of other people) disagree with, it's the fact that they're actively trying to deny rights to a group of people. That's not just about dissenting opinions, and it's wrong. It's the exact same thing as if Chick-Fil-A were donating money to groups working to deny rights to black people. It's not about trying to shut people up because they have differing opinions, it's about not putting up with bigotry and hatred.

What a lot of them don't seem to get is that not tolerating intolerance is not the same thing as being intolerant.

Re: Chicachicafilla

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-08-04 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
EVERYTHING you just said.

I told a specific guy off concerning the Chick-fil-a debacle and he said I was trying to deny his freedom of speech. *facepalm* Free speech defends your right to say something it doesn't protect you from criticism. The whole thing basically ended with me shouting "Criticism is just more free speech asshole!" in a parking lot.
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Re: Chicachicafilla

[personal profile] cashay 2012-08-04 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I would love to have seen that xD

Re: Chicachicafilla

(Anonymous) 2012-08-04 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, free speech goes both ways. People have the right to their opinions, and other people have the right to disagree.

There are far too many people who think "free speech" gives them carte blanche to say whatever bigoted things they want without anyone calling them on that shit.
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Re: Chicachicafilla

[personal profile] cassandraoftroy 2012-08-05 11:18 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously. It baffles me that so many people don't get that, if you're not filing legal injunctions against them or sending secret police into their homes to arrest them for saying something, you're not actually violating their right to free speech by disagreeing with them or telling them they're wrong/bad for expressing a dumbshit opinion.

Freedom of speech != freedom from disagreement.