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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-08-09 06:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #2046 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-08-09 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
going anon for obvious reasons here-- I always felt like PZB was basically a yaoi fangirl. And then when she decided to get a sex change all I could think of was how many other yaoi fangirls had the same dream, and that her only real goal was so that she could have gay sex with men.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-09 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude.... no.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-09 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
so much yikes.
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[personal profile] fenm 2012-08-10 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
"all I could think of was how many other yaoi fangirls had the same dream"

So, I take it you also think that a lot the guys who jerk off to "lesbian" sex scenes in porn want to become women?

(Anonymous) 2012-08-10 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Not OP up there but I've actually stumbled upon many a discussion by yaoi fangirls talking about how they wish they could be men for a day/howeverlong so they could have gay sex. It's really weird how that's a thing. I haven't seen anyone say they're trans, but I have definitely seen weird conversations about wanting to be cute anime boys having gay sex.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-10 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry you take them seriously.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-10 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
It was meant to be taken seriously.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-08-10 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, they mean it. A lot of people wouldn't mind experimenting if they could just magically switch back. Is it any surprise Yaoi fangirls are no exception?
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2012-08-10 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
While this is true (the part about the yaoi fangirls), if you want to get an actual sex change you actually need to live as your desired gender for X amound of time and have a shitton of psychological evaluations (at least where I live) - so I really doubt that saying "I want to have hot gay yaoi sex" would get you the surgery.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-10 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
I know that and never really said otherwise.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-10 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Uh, that's a common thing though..? I'm pretty sure a lot of people think about how it feels like to be the opposite sex, having sex, etc. I want to know how it feels like to hav a vag but it's not like I'm gonna cut off my penis just to try it. I feel sorry for FTMs, so much ignorance.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-10 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Lol. You'd need more than wanting to have cute yaoi tiem to have a sex change. Is it really that surprising that some FTMs like yaoi? Seems like an easy medium for a FTM to get into.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-10 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
lol at everyone misreading my comment. Maybe everyone should see what I was replying to and realize what I was referencing and saying before just dumping information my way. Or keep on trolling with your bad self.

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[personal profile] chocorate 2012-08-10 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
How is that surprising though?

Especially in anime fandom..

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(Anonymous) 2012-08-10 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Also, tumblr.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-10 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
Men say "I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body" and "If I was a woman for a day I would play with my tits all the damn day!"
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[personal profile] opal_skies 2012-08-10 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
I sort of side-eye this too, but there is actually a far amount of scholarship, etc. from Japanese yaoi writers, fans, and scholars thereof that support this idea.

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[personal profile] rapunzelita 2012-08-10 11:02 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know, I think I'd actually like finding out how having sex as a man feels (note that it's just *as* a man, the idea is not "I want to have gay buttsex!"). It's just basic curiosity, I kind of fail to see the problem with that.

Of course if it's just objectification/idealisation of male homosexual relationships (the uke/seme dynamics, that kind of stuff), I do see how it could be problematic. Especially since many a "yaoi fangirl" doesn't realise that, mostly, gay men are just people like anyone else, there's nothing fundamentally different about them. (And I would know - I used to be a pretty stupid yaoi fangirl myself, when I was a teen.)

(Anonymous) 2012-08-11 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
I was one of these people for a while. They do exist.

I still have the feeling that I would like to have an organ attached to my body that has lots of nerves in it that I can use to penetrate people.

I no longer think this means I am a guy or want to be a guy. But for a while I assumed it must mean I have a male gender identity.

It took me a long time of thinking about it to realize that no, I just wish my favorite sexual thing to do was something I could physically feel in the way people with a different body type can. It doesn't make me see myself as a man.

So yeah, those people do exist... and I will also say, at the risk of being misinterpreted terribly, that I read some comments from then-PZB that I could really relate to and thought "she" was another person who felt the same way I did.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-10 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
I've had the same impression too.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-10 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
God you're a fucktard. Stop.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-10 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Same.
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[personal profile] rmg 2012-08-10 08:10 am (UTC)(link)
eat shit and die

(Anonymous) 2012-08-10 11:40 am (UTC)(link)
lol what

anon is a good idea, wouldn't want people knowing how fucking dumb you are :U

(Anonymous) 2012-08-11 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
I remember thinking some things he said about that before he transition sounded weird, and feeling put off by it. But now that I know that he's trans, a lot of that stuff that seemed really bizarre makes a little more sense to me now.

It may be that at the time he wrote that weird stuff, he thought of himself as a "girlfag" or the like and was writing from that perspective. I can't speak to trans people's lives, but as someone who was questioning my gender for a while I know there were periods where I tried on different identities until I figured myself out.