[ SECRET POST #2046 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2046 ⌋

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Comments

[velvet_mace]

I don't presuppose flaws before they happen. So much of what makes a show good or bad is execution, and Elementary hasn't had a chance to show us how they plan on executing the concept. The concept itself is pretty tried and true: the brilliant quirky observant detective and his loyal assistant. The fact that Watson is female is neither here nor there as far as I'm concerned.

I've watched some Perceptions, and overall I like it, because it's proceedural fun with a protagonist who is cute and quirky. I find it a little -- okay, very convenient in the magical mental illness trope department (his hallucinations are waaaaay more useful than any hallucination has a right to be). But you know, magical realism is good fun. I do hope that they stop pretending that there is any real science actually backing this show up. The wikipedia worthy research is not really worth the "If you want to find out more" footnote at the end of the show.

[(Anonymous)]

Re: Watson: On this show at least, I don't see Moretti as Watson. I think that's more Lewicki's role. (And that is one note of difference between the two shows I'm glad to have.)

My view on the 'useful hallucinations' is colored by the fact that House used the same ploy a while back (Ghost!Amber hanging around and illustrating all of the mental leaps we usually only just see as 'ah-ha!' moments), and I liked it there.

IOW, the hallucinations are his own subconscious trying to make connections that he hasn't fully grasped yet. I enjoy the way the viewer is 'let in' on that process, as opposed to the standard where the hero generally just gets an Idea Face and then scene-jump to him announcing the identity of the killer.

[velvet_mace]

Don't get me wrong. I love magic. Give me a detective with psychic powers any day, and I have no problem whatsoever with it.

I just don't buy that they are a realistic depiction of actual schizophrenic behavior. And it's not. Not getting into it, but I have a lot of first hand exposure to actual schizophrenics, and their halucinations aren't their brains working out problems -- more the other way around. But that really doesn't make for good story telling.

I was okay with House too, because I didn't for a second think that his exploits were at all realistic.

My problem is the note at the end where it says "If you want to know more about this condition" like it was some kind of fucking PSA. No. Or maybe yes, I'd like to know more about that disorder, but not because it was presented so realistically!

[fenm]

Yeah, I get that the things the hallucinations are saying are just Daniel's working through the problem, and what "they" tell him are things he noticed in the back of his mind. But, yeah, I don't think that's what schizophrenia is.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT, and agreed with both of you. As a point of curiosity - is schizophrenia his definite/only diagnosis on the show? Is their portrayal of his other main symptoms - paranoia, anxiety about crowds, etc - more accurate? What about the way it's basically an ironic and self-aware sort at paranoia, as opposed to the way the anxiety is more on a level of 'physically. can't.'?

But I still enjoy the show and the character, just tend to see him through the lens of 'enjoyably fucked-up' instead of 'accurate schizophrenic'.