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fandomsecrets2012-08-13 07:19 pm
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[ SECRET POST #2050 ]
⌈ Secret Post #2050 ⌋
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(Anonymous) 2012-08-14 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)In the MCU, it's made quite clear that, while the cycle of Ragnarok always plays out, each incarnation of Loki chooses the actions he takes. The result may be similar each time, but he does have considerable freedom of choice.
Initially, he started out as the 'God of Mischief,' but his resentment of Thor/Odin/Asgard eventually twisted him into a 'God of Evil' whose sole purpose is to cause as much pain and misery as he can. In various MCU incarnations, he chooses to do things that are completely prickish (wearing Sif's skin and trapping her spirit in the body of an elderly woman, killing Baldur, manipulating Odin into adopting him by appearing to him as Bor, murdering Laufey, unleashing bedlam on Midgard, whatever.) He may realize he's gone too far, but remorse happens after the fact. He lacks the compassion, empathy, and love required to not be an asshat in the first place.
That's why I'm intrigued with the current 'Kid Loki' incarnation. Here, we have a chance to see whether or not Loki is truly shackled by Fate, or if he's tied to his supposed destiny by chains he forges himself through envy, bitterness, and hatred.
As for movie!Loki, while he may be a tragic villain in some ways, he could have chosen a different path. He could have privately spoken to Odin about his misgivings surrounding Thor's coronation. He could have gotten upset when he learned he was adopted, manned up, and decided to prove that Frost Giants weren't monsters through his own actions, instead of flying off the handle like a toddler. He didn't have to try and destroy Jotunheim. He didn't have to let go of Gungnir and tumble into the Void.
This freedom of choice is what makes Loki and interesting character in the MCU, since there's always the possibility he can make the right choice and change his own fate. It makes a redemption arc possible, however unlikely. He'd be boring otherwise.
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Yes unfortunately Loki knows of and understands his role in the Ragnarok cycle and usually chooses to embrace it instead of fighting it. He has had moments of good or even regret but then he seems to go back to being bad every time, whether its by choice or not.
He is actually also just kind of an asshole. Yep. :P But to be honest it is at least understandable to me why he would resent Odin in the comics.
I really hope they don't have Kid Loki just turn evil. That would be so lazy ugh. I want Loki to change, especially since he seems to really want to. Also I just really don't want to loose him, he is so precious. ;__;
Same Anon as Above
(Anonymous) 2012-08-14 03:15 pm (UTC)(link)The current 'Asgardia' Odin is a complete tool. That said, I have enjoyed previous MCU incarnations of Odin (especially in Simonson's run).
Kid Loki is so precious. His methods may be questionable, but he's trying his best (and he has a lot of strikes going against him, poor kid). I'd really like to see Marvel keep him as a White Hat for a while. They've done it with other villains in the past (Yes, I'm looking at you, Magneto!).
Re: Same Anon as Above
You haven't been reading the MCU since the '70s, because the MCU (Marvel Cinematic Universe) didn't exist until the movie "Iron Man" came out in 2008. You've been reading the comicsverse since the '70s.