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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-08-17 06:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #2054 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2054 ⌋

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kallanda_lee: (Default)

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2012-08-17 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it depends a lot on context.

What if RP-ing sex was never discussed/agreed upon?
Then it's basically cheating.
What if it actually took away whole weekends away from couples-time?
In that case I would call it harmful for the relationship.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-17 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think I'd be able to see it as cheating unless the person is actually getting off. If RPing sex is basically wank fodder for someone, then yeah, that's iffy, but that's also not what everyone RPs sex scenes for.

And what if the OP sees all of their partner's free time as couples-time? In that case I would agree that the partner taking me-time instead might be harmful for the relationship, but also that the relationship might be fundamentally unhealthy and not worth staying in.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-18 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's cheating any more than watching porn or commissioning porn or something is.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2012-08-18 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I disagree there.

I think that if you're interacting with actual people in a sexual way, even if it's just as a character, it's different than porn.
That doesn't mean it shouldn't be acceptable in a relationship, but I think it's definitely that should be discussed before just doing it.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-08-18 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
For some people, that alone is bad enough.

I don't feel that way personally, but some people do.

Though I definitely think being actively involved in a chat is more intimate then watching something as a third party.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2012-08-18 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
This.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-18 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
this, for reeeeaaal.

I have no idea why people get so fucking mad about their SOs indulging in something different every once in a while, especially if it's something as detached from reality as porn or RPing, for god's sake.
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[personal profile] world_eater 2012-08-18 11:00 am (UTC)(link)
If you're explicitely roleplaying smut tho it's basically cybersex except written in third person...
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[personal profile] wauwy 2012-08-21 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
lol at anon roleplayers trying to pretend this isn't true.
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[personal profile] seiberwing 2012-08-18 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
The feeling I'm getting off this secret isn't that it was the sex that was the problem, but that she was blowing off her partner for it.
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[personal profile] htebazytook 2012-08-18 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
You're basically saying anyone who reads or watches porn is cheating on their SO
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2012-08-18 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
No, I think RP is different in the sense that there is interaction with other actual people.

Just like I'd consider watching/chatting with a cam girl to be different from watching porn where there is no interaction.
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[personal profile] kittybeard 2012-08-18 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
I honestly cannot fathom how rping someone who...isn't you with another fictional character having sex is cheating.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2012-08-18 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not saying I'd consider it cheating per se, but you're still the one 'playing' the character, and the other 'character' is still a real person.
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[personal profile] kittybeard 2012-08-18 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Sure, but you're not trying to BE your real selves. You're still writing about imaginary figments doing it, and unless it spirals into rl in that you and the other player start actively seeing it as representations of yourselves, it's essentially just sitting around and writing porn together because fun.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2012-08-18 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
I realise, and I acknowledge I haven't done much rp, but personally I don't see how at least a little part of it wouldn't be "me" and not the chracter.
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[personal profile] kittybeard 2012-08-18 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
There's a part of me in the way the character thinks and acts overall, sure, I see myself a bit in how he leads his life and such, but there's enough disconnect that I'm not feeling like I'm getting personal with someone else when we rp. I just see the other character - the real person doesn't factor in so much during roleplay (I mean aside from OOC discussing stories we'll do and stuff like that.)

(Anonymous) 2012-08-18 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
So what if someone is, say, an actor who does improv. Maybe not as their "real" job, but it's still something they're really into. Would you see it as almost-cheating or whatever it is you think RPing sex scenes is for an actor playing a character to do a scene with another actor that involves sexual situations?
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2012-08-18 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
No improv company I've seen has been about turning the participants on, though.RPF porn sort of specifically does that.

Also, plenty of actors have agreements with their partners as to how far they'll go with intimate/sexual stuff on stage or on film.

If I had a partner who made porn for a living, I'd want to know. And even if I wouldn't consider it cheating as such, that doesn't mean that it wouldn't bother me and potentially be a dealbreaker in a relationship.

Like I said, it really, really depends on what was discussed and agreed upon in the relationship.

I'm not saying that the girlfriend did something horrible here, but these things do go into the area of "not okay" for some people and it's therefore wise to discuss them.

People have the right to not be okay with certain things, even if those things might seem minor to others. Of course, the other party also have the right to leave them over that - but that's all about what you negotiate in a relationship.
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[personal profile] al28894 2012-08-18 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, me too.