[ SECRET POST #2056 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2056 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

anyone can be pretty if they try

No, actually some of us can't ever be pretty no matter how hard we try, and resent the hell out of suggestions like this. Not only are we unattractive, we're just *not trying hard enough* - yeah, add insult to injury, why don't you?

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry for your pain, but really what would you like people to say? "Don't try, you'll never be pretty."? That's pretty damned cruel, don't you think?

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's more that they resent being reminded that some people will never be pretty, yet being ~pretty~ is so important that people will try desperately to save them from the fate of an unattractive husk.

[(Anonymous)]

na

Honestly, I know the person who posted this comment meant well in that we all have the potential to be beautiful, but some of us don't. I've got serious facial scaring that makes people recoil; I can't fix that. Comments like "everyone can be pretty" just make me feel like it's somehow my fault I'm not, even though all the nice hair and flattering outfits won't make up for all the damage.

[veronica_rich]

What disturbs me is that almost nobody ever pops up to give unattractive men advice for how they can look better - or that they should try, as a way to better themselves.

[(Anonymous)]

So I guess those Just For Men, Rogaine, Hair Club for Men, Maxim shampoo, Bowflex, and Enzyte ads I've been seeing for the last decade or so have all been figments of my imagination. Good to know.

[veronica_rich]

Gosh, yes, because that's all comparable to what women go through. THE POOR MEN.

[(Anonymous)]

I never said it was, because it isn't. Just bringing up that there's a bit more than "almost nobody" who puts these expectations on men, too. Not nearly to the degree that is done for women, but there is still at least some pressure there to have washboard abs and a huge package.

[veronica_rich]

These are things men seem to largely want from and for themselves. It's not like we're the ones demanding it from them. Big penises are not usually the defining trait most women go for - it's men measuring against each other; plenty of bald men get play (hello, Sir Stewart! Sean Connery, etc. etc. - show me a fat woman men drool over en masse); and washboard abs are fun to look at, but I've never heard any woman I've known say "I got to get me some of THAT!"

Now, women I know do like a nice ass and nice legs. And I'll grant you that good hair is attractive - but again, refer to my remarks on bald men.

[(Anonymous)]

Again, you're assuming and countering things that I did not say. I never said that pressure came from women. Only that it's there. And in that regard, women do the same thing to other women as well. We judge the hell out of each other's appearances as often as the men do. Sometimes even moreso. Hell, just look at this thread.

show me a fat woman men drool over en masse

Queen Latifah. Kirstie Alley. Toccara Jones. Jill Scott. Camryn Manheim. Cynthia Ettinger. Amanda Aday.

[veronica_rich]

Kirstie Alley ... seriously? Camryn Manheim? I must live on a different planet than these men.

[(Anonymous)]

*shrug* Maybe. Or since plus-sized women are actually getting more exposure in entertainment, men aren't as wary of admitting they'd want Latifah's gravy before Lady Gaga's Ragu.

[veronica_rich]

Some of us don't really need to BE pretty to feel like we're humans entitled to the same rights as others. I think that's the point. :-)

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe try staying out of it. It isn't any of your business how someone else looks. And looks are only important if someone thinks they are important. Some people don't care, don't want advice, and/or are happy with the way they look. And that is perfectly okay.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you Cassandra Clare? No? Then why are you getting so butthurt at a suggestion that she needs to work harder to be a bit more attractive?

[(Anonymous)]

Neither ayrt nor CC (thank heavens) here, but on a related note, I take issue with the phrasing that someone 'needs' to fall under the definition of 'attractive'. Sometimes people make hairstyle and makeup choices (or choose a lack thereof) to make themselves feel good, not to please a passing eye.

(Sorry if that comes off as SJW-y, but it's a peeve.)

[(Anonymous)]

So you'd rather be nihilistic and wallow in your self-pity than have someone say that you, too, can be pretty?

[(Anonymous)]

You're wrong, but please continue wallowing in self pity. It's obviously doing you so much good.

[(Anonymous)]

Your attitude is more unattractive than your appearance. Just saying.