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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-08-29 06:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #2066 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2066 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-08-29 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
YES. This. Liberal congregations can say whatever they want, he's not Jewish. If he became more religious he would have to convert. I have friends who did that - their mother wasn't Jewish, they became Orthodox, they converted to Judaism.

It pissed me off that it was a Cohen too, that meant the priestly line ended with Sandy.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-29 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
hi OP

(Anonymous) 2012-08-29 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
so are you saying here that only Orthodox Judaism counts as "real" Jewish tradition?

Just gonna leave this here

(Anonymous) 2012-08-29 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
http://www.jewfaq.org/whoisjew.htm
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[personal profile] mechanosapience 2012-08-29 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Belonging to a more conservative denomination of a religion does not make one "more religious." You can be very religious and adhere to a more liberal tradition. It's just that the more liberal traditions don't typically espouse getting all up in other people's business or identity policing as much.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-29 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
GTFO with this "priestly" Cohen bullshit. Guess what? I'm a Cohen. I come from two Jewish parents, both of whom came from two Jewish parents, and on and on up the ancestral line. Being a Cohen hasn't meant shit for how religious of a Jew you are for centuries now.

I don't keep the Sabbath, I don't keep kosher, don't fast on the holidays, sometimes eat a bit of leavened breads on Passover, don't pray, etc. This isn't exactly a shocking thing amongst Cohens or even Jews in general. So, the way I see it, those with a Jewish father who didn't do the whole converting process yet keep the laws of Judaism and consider themselves a part of the faith? You better believe I consider them to be just as Jewish as me, if not much more so.

And unless the Jewish community as a whole is willing to let the religion die out or only be represented by the Orthodox, they better be willing to stop looking down on those with only one Jewish parent who WANT to be a part of the religion. The intermarriage rate among Jews in America is around 50 percent. That rate's not going to decrease, no matter how many times the whole "Oh, intermarriage is going to do what the Holocaust didn't" (and, yes, that line is disgustingly common) train of thought is brought up. Jewish people, like people of any other religious group, need to adapt what they do to fit their times and historical contexts somewhat.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-30 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Not every Jew is an Orthodox Jew. AND THAT'S OKAY!

(Anonymous) 2012-08-30 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Have fun watching your religion die out because you've got your head so far up your ass that you're unable to see reality.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-30 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
It's already dying out with the bunch of idiots who believe they can cut away the majority and still preserve the whole. As far as I can tell the only people actually preserving Judaism as it is are the Orthodox. And they're the ones have a bunch of babies.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-30 07:34 am (UTC)(link)
Actually it's funny you say that, because Judaism is dying out among the Reform, Conservative, and various non-practicing Jewry.
On the other hand, Orthodox Judaism is showing positive growth.