[ SECRET POST #2069 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2069 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Important: I'm really sorry about this, but I accidentally clicked the wrong thing and deleted the submission post from last week instead of saving it. Managed to save the first page (25) of secrets, but the rest (a bit over 100) are gone.

If you submitted something last week (Aug 26-Sept 1), please resubmit it here and it will still go up this week.

The submissions post for next week is linked below as usual.

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #296.
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Why are so many people so "sad" and "depressed" over Pluto's reclassification?

You'd think NASA blew it out of the sky or something, based on the way people act like they're mourning it (and six years later). It's still out there, orbiting and doing its thing and not caring what we call it. Kids will not be "deprived" by knowing more specific definitions for celestial bodies and it's not like they'll never ever ever hear about Pluto.

[hiyami]

We grew up being told that our system has 9 planets. It's like being told that Santa doesn't exist, except now we're old enough to remember how it feels.

[(Anonymous)]

This. Also, I was a wee geeky kid fascinated by Pluto because it was so far out and away from everything else and so different from all the others as well. That it was a planet that wasn't "normal" was the appeal. Pluto not being a planet anymore decreases that allure. It's like I almost can't help but get offended on its behalf.

IDK, I grew up with nine planets and I'm attached to that idea. I wouldn't mind adding more planets but I don't like taking the status away once it's been granted.

[deadtree]

yeah agreed. Planets and space are often a huge deal for children... they're like magic that is proven by science. When Pluto was demoted it was heartbreaking :( Pluto was the nerdy outcast of the solar system and then it got kicked out entirely ;_;

[ryttu3k]

And people who went to school prior to 1930 grew up being told that our system has eight planets. The beauty of science is that people keep learning things things, and hence, definitions change. Things that were taught in the past might not end up being true.

A few centuries ago, it was taught that the planets, including the sun, all orbited the Earth. Just because it was taught for a very long time doesn't make it true, and with the discovery of Eris, Haumea, Makemake, and re-evaluating Ceres, either you end up with a solar system clogged with planets, or you reclassify them into dwarf planets - including ones that formerly WERE classified as planets.

Did you know Ceres was classified as a planet before they found, well, the rest of the asteroid belt? If anything, think of the rise, fall, and rise again of Ceres! A planet demoted to a mere asteroid - and then promoted to a full-fledged dwarf planet! Go Ceres!

(Sorry, hiyami, for the tl;dr reply specifically to you - it's really more aimed at anyone with attachment to Pluto as a planet, you were just the first one to bring up being taught that there were nine planets.)

[(Anonymous)]

+1

The Carl Sagan icon gives added emphasis!

[(Anonymous)]

This, yes, thank you. When they reclassified Pluto I thought it was cool that we were inching forward in learning and understanding the universe better.

[childings.livejournal.com]

Well said.

[(Anonymous)]

..And that means people can't be sad...Why, exactly?

No one is arguing that 'Pluto really is a planet! Science is just wrong!' People are saying they're sad/upset because something they grew up with [and in some cases had fond memories attached to] has changed. It's something that's actually not that uncommon in any given generation - and lecturing people about 'Well, science changes!' isn't going to really effect it, beyond giving the feeling that you think their feelings aren't valid which...kind of isn't cool.

[hiyami]

This, thank you so much.

I have a scientific upbringing and I've had my lot of learning everything I'd been told in former classes was in fact not true, or over-simplified because until then it was too complicated to teach to high school students.

But I totally get why people might be a bit nostalgic.

Not to mention, most people who I saw express that feeling are geeks, and they're half-joking about it.
As kids, we loved to learn about the planets, and had fun remembering the order of planets in the solar system.

[ryttu3k]

Yeah, true >.< I guess I was looking at it from a more scientific viewpoint, not a sentimental one? I assumed that since I never felt sentimental over Pluto being 'demoted', then people were doing so over... I don't know, some overreaction. I apologise.

Er, I do think people ARE still saying that they're ignoring science and Pluto IS a planet, though. There's been a few comments alluding to that in this very thread, and I've seen other things where people have basically screamed over how the big mean scientists are WRONG, Pluto will ALWAYS be a planet and so THERE.

(I actually saw a comparison to the scientists as the popular kids who kicked out the poor outcast. I'm guessing that person didn't know many science geeks. We've never been the popular kids! And I say this as someone graduating with a science degree in two and a bit weeks.)

But yeah, I guess I was disregarding how people felt for a bit, for which I apologise. I'm just puzzled at how emotive an issue it is.

[(Anonymous)]

It doesn't really bother me personally, but I did see a toy orrery last year that came in a fitted blister pack, so that each planet had a plastic outline that it fit into... and there was a small empty pit where Pluto used to be.

And I gotta admit that at that moment, I got a weird little nostalgic-feeling hit of sadness. ;_;

[(Anonymous)]

> orrery

TIL a new word. Thanks nonnie!

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not real emotional over Pluto... but yeah, a sad little empty pit in the blister pack...

[(Anonymous)]

So did I. Pluto is still there, though. It's real. All that changed was its official classification.

[(Anonymous)]

My Very Excellent Mother Just Served Us Nothing.

Pretty big downgrade from Nine Pizzas.

[hiyami]

LOL yeah, there's that, too :)

[ryttu3k]

How about nachos? :D

[childings.livejournal.com]

I don't know man. This is how science works. People are fucking annoying.

[hiyami]

It's okay, you're kind of boring anyway.

None of the people who talk about Pluto are saying science shouldn't work this way.