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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-01 03:47 pm

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[identity profile] niuxita21.livejournal.com 2012-09-01 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Same here. The only reason I tolerate the past two seasons is because I've fallen in love with Amy Farrah Fowler/Mayim Bialik and was surprised at how much I enjoyed the scenes between her, Penny, and Bernadette, but otherwise, this show bugs me because it's clear that a similar show about four moderately attractive/unattractive female nerds wouldn't have been given a second look. And the sexism is pretty gross, but it's a Chuck Lorre show, what did I expect.

And I agree, Sheldon treats Penny like a 5-year-old with a learning disability, I don't understand where all the shipping comes from. I do, however, have grown to find his relationship with Amy oddly charming and compelling, because it's so different from all the would-be romantic relationships on TV these days.
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[personal profile] themperor 2012-09-02 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
All this here is how I feel. I enjoy the show, bought the DVDs when they were on sale. But Penny, Bernadette, and Amy are the real reason I tend to tune in anymore. I love their dynamic!

And I ship Amy/Sheldon so bad. The Penny/Sheldon thing just seems to cliche and leading into bad tropes (people who fight all the time - its obviously sexual tension!)

OP

(Anonymous) 2012-09-02 06:56 am (UTC)(link)
Don't get me started on the blatant sexism. For the first few seasons, Penny (whose surname is apparently not even worth mentioning after 5 seasons) was the only "non-smart" person in the group of "smart geeks" and half the scenes/jokes were about one of the guys saying scientific stuff and she going, "Whut?". It seemed to me like she was there to represent the "average person's" reaction to being near science geeks - and, even though she never understood a single word the guys were saying, it was okay, because "they were just nerds". In my opinion, the audience is meant to relate to Penny more than to the other geeky guys, so they don't think that Penny is stupid because she doesn't understand science or doesn't have a college degree (otherwise they would be calling themselves stupid) - they just think the nerds are weird. But nerds have always been weird, so it's okay. /sarcasm

Then we got Bernadette and Amy. I must admit, I think Bernadette is my favourite character out of all of them and I like Amy, too. I like the relationship between the three of them. But I still see signs of sexism. For example, Amy is a very intelligent woman and an amazing scientist. And what do the writers do? They drop hints about how she would like to do something that goes beyond friendship with Penny (while she's also in a relationship with Sheldon, which seems weird to me; also, we get it, everyone on the show has the hots for Penny - was it really necessary to add a woman to the list of people who have the hots for Penny, too?), she screams with joy when she sees a tiara, has this weird "princess complex" and when there's any mention of her past (like how she supposedly never had female friends, was all alone and sad, without a boyfriend, etc...) the audience laughs (that, or the laugh track gives us the clue that we should laugh). I feel genuinely sorry for the character of Amy - she's this highly intelligent, independent woman who has a pretty good job and the audience is meant to laugh at her past, or at her lesbian advances on Penny. Writers of the BBT, what the heck is wrong with you?

Rants aside, I do strangely like the relationship between Amy and Sheldon, too. I hope the writers don't screw it up, though.
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Re: OP

[personal profile] harp 2012-09-02 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
(Not comment-stalking you, you just make a lot of good points)

The laugh track in the show is... really don't know how to describe it. It's really funny that you say "the laugh track gives us the clue that we should laugh" because while I was watching Season 2 (the one I started with) at least twice an episode, Sheldon would say something, and I'd think "Yeah, that's what I was thinking" or "I can understand that" (when he'd explain why he did/said something or "That's true/he makes a good point". Then the laugh track would sound, and I'd be like "what about that was funny?"

One example of this was when Sheldon was attempting trash talk with "your mother's fat", and later added that if her weight was because of genetics, not lifestyle, he apologizes and rescinds the insult. "That was kind and thoughtful of him" is what I thought, and Raj asked what difference it made and that "fat is fat", to which Sheldon replied "Hey, there are limits". And the laugh track. I still don't understand what's funny about that in the same way I wouldn't understand if the laugh track came after someone saying "take an umbrella; it looks like rain". I mean, if you think about it for two seconds, he has a point. It's like... "Ha ha, bald people! ... Ha, ha, check out that bald guy! Oh man, and look at that one! Oh, no wait, don't make fun of him, he has leukemia, that's not cool." Common sense things that aren't about any "social cause" or whatever, but "it's just basic human decency".

So I don't know if I should feel mocked, or like it's a learning experience, or sad because this is what passes for pop comedy, or if I should be learning from this. Most of the time, I try not to think about it, because constantly IRL, I say something that's met with a confusing, completely unexpected reaction. I'm not trying to say I'm "just like Sheldon", I'm saying that it's a trait in a character that hits close to home.