[ SECRET POST #2069 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2069 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The City of Dreaming Books]


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[Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind]


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Notes:

Important: I'm really sorry about this, but I accidentally clicked the wrong thing and deleted the submission post from last week instead of saving it. Managed to save the first page (25) of secrets, but the rest (a bit over 100) are gone.

If you submitted something last week (Aug 26-Sept 1), please resubmit it here and it will still go up this week.

The submissions post for next week is linked below as usual.

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #296.
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Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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Comments

[terabient]

But why does Loki need to be mind controlled? IMO 'actively fighting mind control (but still being, well, controlled)' and 'Controlled because he's being threatened' are essentially the same thing, but Loki's reasons for his actions become harder to read if he has some level of autonomy. Personally, I like wondering how much of Loki's cruelty was due to his need to convince the Chitauri that he was their ally, and how much of it was just Loki being a dick. The mind control route removes a lot of that uncertainty, even if one assumes he was fighting against it.

As far as bringing together the Avengers and then failing miserably against them later...IDK I didn't think Loki was actively trying to bring the Avengers together; I mean, the only person in the whole movie who was trying to make that happen was Fury. Even S.H.I.E.L.D wasn't wholly on board with the Avengers being...a thing. Loki's just good at playing situations to his advantage. Like, I don't think he actually intended to get captured by S.H.I.E.L.D.; he just knew how to use his captivity to his advantage.

I didn't see his loss in Avengers as a huge personal failure--up until the Chitauri invasion the Avengers are doing a pretty good job of kicking their own asses, and when Loki confronts Tony at Stark Tower Tony's retort to Loki's taunting is basically "No, seriously, we've put aside our differences and we really will kick your ass now." From a viewer standpoint we know that's going to happen because it's a summer blockbuster, but from Loki's view there's not much evidence that the Avengers would be able to stop him.

[(Anonymous)]

+ all the numbers, this is pretty much how I saw it too.

And I don't think "Loki being crueler than he wanted to because of the Chitauri" makes him more sympathetic or woobified either, it just shows that he was willing to do anything to get a chance to act on his resentment and jealousy and egomania.

[(Anonymous)]

It could make him more sympathetic if you interpreted it as a response to them threatening him with a fate worse than death/"you will long for something as sweet as pain"/whatever rather than him wanting them to keep giving him toys to try to conquer the world with, but yeah.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, this. In response to the second paragraph... Fandom likes to make Loki out to be awesome at planning things, but... he really isn't. At least in the movies, I don't know about the comics. He isn't proactive, he's reactive. He improvises. He's great at coming up with stuff on the fly and manipulating a situation to his advantage. But fandom likes to make him out to be this awesome god of plotting and stuff when he's really just good at making shit up as he goes along.

[(Anonymous)]

And even then, he comes off as the ultimate master of "Fuck you, I meant to do that."

[(Anonymous)]

Basically, yeah. He's the god of winging it and then making it look like you planned it that way all along. Screw mischief.

[(Anonymous)]

Considering he tried to commit genocide long before the Chitauri even entered the scene, I'm inclined to think that the cruelty was just him getting his kicks out of bullying someone weaker than he was...But that's just my take on it.