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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-05 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #2073 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2073 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[MCR/Killjoys]


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[Stephen Merchant]


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[Mobile Suit Gundam]


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[Lord of the Rings]


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[Eureka]


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[Game of Thrones]


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[Hannibal Lecter]


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(Anonymous) 2012-09-05 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Creative Writing major here. I had to take four writing workshop courses for my major. The first workshop prof I had was awesome. He didn't put down anyone or any of their writing, which I appreciated as a big fan of sci-fi and fantasy. When asked about those genres, he said something along the lines of how they were done to death and terribly cliche and had a bad rap because of it, but if you wanted to do it, you "better be a fucking badass". That was the phrase he used whenever he knew something in our writing would be hard to pull off well, and so told us that if we wanted to do it, put everything into it and make it fresh.

Unfortunately, he left the university just before my last workshop so I was stuck with some bitch woman. She had "the air", you know, the one people put in when they're an author~~~. So she tells us that we're supposed to write a story at the beginning of the course and we'd work on it in stages throughout the class. One girl raised her hand and asked if it was okay to write a sci-fi or fantasy story. I don't think the prof could have made a more disgusted face if she'd instead walked up to her podium and took a shit on her shoes. The prof snobbishly replied, "You'd be better off doing -real- literature." I was so furious I almost wrote a Star Trek fanfiction just to piss her off. Instead, I wrote about a guy that was obsessed with Chinese dolls and mannequins wearing Chinese clothes. Somehow that got interpreted that he wanted to be a woman? IDEK.

Anyway, long story short, professors are asstards and while you have to kiss their skinny butt while you're in their class, feel free to ignore damn near everything they say on your own time. Most writing classes have some nuggets of wisdom in them, but they sure as hell are tainted by the leader's personal perspective and opinion.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-05 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha! I had a professor like that. I caved and wrote a story focused on a vanitas painting, and had fun while the class decided that it was an allegory for the protagonist's failing marriage while I'm like, "Look, I just wanted to write a story about a guy that eats a painting."

These days I've learned that if someone says "science fiction is crap" they have no idea what they're talking about. They think "science fiction" is Star Wars, instead of the speculative fiction that speaks to the truths of human nature that it often is in the hands of so many wonderful and well-respected writers.

Also, c'mon, who doesn't like spaceships?

(Anonymous) 2012-09-06 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT...I think I'm using that right. ANYWAY.

Yeah, the protagonist in my story was just a shut-in that related better to inanimate objects than animate ones. Really, watching everyone make up things was hilarious, and further reinforced the notion I've had all the way through school that just because my interpretation doesn't match the teacher's doesn't mean it's wrong. Blergh.

The irony is that this teacher took a shit on fantasy, then had us read a story that could be labeled fantasy, all things considered. There was no spells or fairies or elves, but it was in some weird new world with its own geography and cultures and history and all about this 55 year old dude in a mid-life crisis that screwed this younger girl (like 20s, not pedo) and got thrown in jail because of it. (And then I looked at the back of the book and--oh hi there, 55 year old dude author.)

Also, everyone secretly likes spaceships, they just don't want to admit it. *sagenod*

(Anonymous) 2012-09-06 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
"When asked about those genres, he said something along the lines of how they were done to death and terribly cliche..."

This is the thing that gets me. Everything has been done to fucking death. There are only a finite number of stories, and they've all been fucking told already. Declaring that one particular genre is "cliche" or "done to death" is kind of like theory-induced blindness: you have the genre that you prefer and that you think is the most legitimate, and all other genres are tired or corny. In reality, there is no perfect genre, and there is nothing new under the goddamn sun.

Although actually, while we're going there, SF/F probably offers the only new shit under the sun, because it requires new world creation. In terms of plot and characterization, however, someone, somewhere, has already done it. Guaranteed, whether it's "literature" or something else.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-06 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
Just to clarify what he meant, it was that the genre had been driven into the ground and given a bad reputation. Just like vampire novels get the eye-rolls now thanks to Twilight.

He was actually very supportive, and he was the first person in any form of academia that didn't treat my desire to write about magic and spaceships like some kind of pox. It was very nice, all things considered. :)
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[personal profile] silverau 2012-09-06 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
I had a creative writing teacher who didn't like sci-fi. The theme of the class was how to write apocalyptic fiction. >.>

Fortunately he didn't tell us not to write sci-fi, and he didn't grade my apocalyptic short story bad (nor did he try to read a bunch of out-there metaphors into it like yours did, lol), and he didn't have any of that literary snobbery... but we didn't actually talk about apocalypses very much.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-06 05:54 am (UTC)(link)
"some bitch woman"

EXCUSE ME?!!!!

(Anonymous) 2012-09-06 06:17 am (UTC)(link)
IKR? Disgustingly gendered way to put someone who happens to be female down.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-06 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
lol, as soon as I wrote that, I knew some SJW would be on it like stink on shit. Thanks for proving me right. :)

And you didn't meet her. All your SJW tendencies would have flown out the door as soon as you got a taste of her "I'm so much better than you and I'm going to put you down every chance I get" airs.

...wait, nevermind, you two would be BFFs.