[ SECRET POST #2074 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2074 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Sam Winchester, Young Hercules]


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[La Pucelle: Tactics]


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Notes:

Important: I'm really sorry about this, but I accidentally misclicked and deleted the submission post from last week instead of saving it. Managed to save the first page (25) of secrets, but the rest (about 100 or so) are gone.

If you submitted something last week (Aug 26-Sept 1), please resubmit it here.

The submissions post for next week is below as usual.

Secrets Left to Post: ?? pages, ??? secrets from Secret Submission Post #296.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

10. http://i48.tinypic.com/sboaih.png

[(Anonymous)]

if that is true, you'd stop posting...problem solved (but i bet you won't)

[(Anonymous)]

"I post my art online because I want to share it with other people"

[insanenoodlyguy]

It's too late. Own it!

Or start anew. But if you've got a style... THEY WILL FIND YOU.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, poor you...

[al28894]

If you don't want to become famous because the haters will pick and pry you apart, then I can sort of see where you're coming from. In any case, keep your head held high and know that YOU own your art and it's only YOU who have the final say in your things.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure how it was a secret to you until your friend told you. I'm not judging, just confused. Didn't you notice you had a ton of followers? Got lots of comments? You were recommended by random people? If none of those are true, then how does your friend know you are a BNF?

So so confused by this secret.

[darkmanifest]

Maybe the fandom is relatively small, so what would seem like mild attention in a bigger fandom is actually pretty huge for a little one.

[streetcake]

Well maybe your friend was exaggerating. If she wasn't, then if the entitled fans start coming and acting like you owe them something, make it clear that you're not anything more than an artist and a fan and you can't do anything for them just because you're ~*popular*~.

And since you seem humble I guess you won't have to worry about getting a swelled head.

[velvet_mace]

Relax. Unless you start acting like an asshole things will likely go on the way they have been. And it is fleeting. Stop producing pictures and in a couple of months people forget you existed.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, I wouldn't sweat it. The BNF term gets thrown around a lot, so it's very possible you aren't even that well-known. (Seriously, I've seen people get called BNFs, and then others in the same fandom have never heard of them.) And even if you are - it's entirely possible to be very well-known in fandom and NOT get any shit for it if you a) don't act like an asshole and/or b) don't take obvious wankbait.

[(Anonymous)]

what is a bnf

[diet_poison]

welcome to f!s :)

BNF = Big Name Fan

[(Anonymous)]

change your identity. do it every so often, and do it cleverly (like, post under the new name while you're still posting under the old one).

[(Anonymous)]

Once you've been active in fandom over a certain amount of time, pretty much everyone gets labelled a BNF once in awhile (especially if a) you're friends with, or followed by, any other people who get called BNFs, or b) you have even once written or created or moderated something that was extremely popular.)

You can't just ignore it, because there will be people who insist on responding to you as if you're not a real person now, as if the stuff you do belongs to the public trust, as if your reputation means your feelings no longer matter, and most annoyingly, as if everything you say is the equivalent of the Pope speaking ex cathedra and therefore if you are Wrong on the Internet you must be dogpiled For Justice.

Just keep in mind that some people *will* treat you like the Pope speaking ex cathedra, and learn to be a little more careful about what you do in public - not just because of the possible consequences, but because your reputation gives your words extra weight, and do you need to take responsibility for that. If goes very far, you might have to learn to keep your personal relationships more separate from your public fandom face, but generally it doesn't go that far.

But it's not that terrible (except during the dogpiles obvs) and like I said, most people who are reasonably competent and active and hang around fandom long enough get that label hung on them *eventually*, whether they actually rate as BNFs or not.

(says anon who just experienced for the first time someone at a RL meet-up being too scared to talk to them after learning their screenname.)

[tabaqui]

Kinda-sorta. I've been told in the past 'you're a BNF!' but i don't think i am or ever was, and it didn't change how i did anything or seem to have any impact on the number of people following me, etc.

All the negative stuff you mention has never happened to me, so either i'm right and i've never been a BNF, or your experience with it is really different than my (supposed) experience.

[(Anonymous)]

Nobody ever *thinks* they're a BNF. :P I'm not one either (you have waaaay more readers than me), but every so often, the past few years, I get an influx of commenters who have decided I am for some reason and I have to kind of retreat into a shell until they get bored and stop paying attention to me again. I've seen it happen to other people at my level, too.

The dogpiling probably depends a lot on exactly where you are in fandom and what kind of stuff you do, though; some bits of fandom are saner than others, and some people are naturally better at not doing stuff that causes it.

[tabaqui]

Ah ha ha. I guess my 'experience' with BNF's was people who everybody talked about and whose every post was met with tons and tons of comments, no matter what. I guess i just never felt like that was *me*, you know?

...I get an influx of commenters who have decided I am for some reason and I have to kind of retreat into a shell until they get bored and stop paying attention to me again.

Okay, but...what does that mean? Do you mean you suddenly get a lot more comments on your posts/fic/whathaveyou? Or do you mean suddenly you have a ton of people going 'omg, you're so awesome/smart/funny/awesome, can i friend?!!!!'

I've had a handful of stories that were/are *very* popular and get rec'd a lot, but to me that doesn't make you a BNF, just a good writer. I guess i think of a BNF as someone who is more active in the 'politics' of fandom, or the opinions and such of fandom. I dunno.

I do know i've mostly avoided/been completely oblivious to a lot of the wank that's gone on in my main fandoms. Yay. :)

[(Anonymous)]

...I suddenly have a bunch of people going 'how dare a BNF do something like that' whenever I do anything more opinionated than post cat pictures. Or they'll whine about how my fic is overrated because of my status, or I don't reply to all my comments, on anon comms or whatever. Usually it happens for awhile after somebody with a lot more readers than me links something of mine, I guess people assume BNF-ness is transitive or something? And then I'll go in my shell for awhile, drop off the BNF-dar, do something way dumber, and nobody cares. *shrug* I get the good stuff too sometimes, the people PMing me because they're afraid to friend me or whatever, but somehow I don't mind that as much. :) (Except when it's someone I thought was a BNF when I was a newbie, that freaks me out a little.)

In my experience, except in a few very special cases, BNF is not something you are, it's something people do to you.

But I'm probably a lot more active in the politics side than you are, most of my really popular stuff has been meta, although I do generally stay as far as possible out of the personality fights. People who get known almost entirely for fic/art probably get less of that drama unless they're really unlucky.

[tabaqui]

......wow.

People really come to your journal to whine that your fic is overrated? What the....?

Yeah, that's just never happened to me, yay! I've had my 'time in the sun', so to speak, when i was posting a couple stories that got really popular, and that was a lot of fun, but mostly i just like being able to share the squee.

I hate personality fights. I detest wank. I really am here just for the pretty, the porn, the angst, the fluff. THIS IS NOT REAL LIFE. Real life is what i put on hold so i can hang out here.

I do love well-constructed meta, though i suppose people can pretty polarized about stuff.

[tabaqui]

Eh. Don't sweat it. Just keep doing what you're doing, posting for the joy of sharing, and ignore it. Unless people get really *weird* with you, then you don't even need to think about it.

It's pretty much only true if you allow it to be true.