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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-08 03:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2076 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-09-08 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh...that's not how I see it. There are certainly women who identify as lesbians who are a four, five, or six on the Kinsey scale, so I don't see that "if she were a human, she would be called a lesbian" as definite proof of non-bisexuality.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-09 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, as a lesbian who considers herself a 5 on the Kinsey scale I'd still be pretty damn offended if someone called me bisexual. I have been incidentally attracted to men once or twice, but that does not invalidate my overwhelming preference for women, which is far more important to me.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-09 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
Which is what I'm saying. Bisexuality is defined as a sexual attraction to men and women while homosexuality is the sexual attraction to only one gender. You're a five, but you choose to identify as a lesbian. It has nothing to do with invalidation. You choose to label yourself as something that you can't in the strictest sense be defined as. This is exactly the situation that I see Kanaya in.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-09 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
Technical bisexuality, the best kind.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-09 01:33 pm (UTC)(link)
So you are invalidating my identity. You're saying that my rare and fleeting attractions to men are of as great import to how I choose to label myself as my overwhelmingly greater attraction to women, the fact that I only date women and have only dated women since I came out because identifying as bisexual led to more than one unhappy relationship with a man I was attracted to but not sexually, and the fact that I have only had and will only ever have sex with women.

Would you tell a straight person who admitted that they found a person of the same sex attractive once or twice in their life and never acted on such attraction, people who'd fall as 1s or 2s on the Kinsey scale, that they technically can't call themselves straight because of it?

There are more nuances in attraction and sexuality, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
exitmouse: (Get my drink on)

[personal profile] exitmouse 2012-09-09 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
So.

The creator calling her a lesbian isn't proof for you that she isn't bisexual.

I just want to be clear that this is what you are saying.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-09 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
Depends on how you define lesbian. There are lesbians who are not strictly homosexual.
exitmouse: (A light through the fog)

[personal profile] exitmouse 2012-09-09 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
Actually I think in this case it depends on how Andrew Hussie defines lesbian.

However, since he has used the word bisexual before, clearly knows what it means, and has bisexual characters - I think he would have used the word bisexual if it were applicable to this character.

Again, the creator has stated that she's a lesbian. I am not sure it is actually possible to be more canon than that.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-09 07:34 am (UTC)(link)
He's also said that all ships are officially canon.

So that settles it.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-09 01:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Jesus fuck are people in this fandom really so stone-cold idiotic as to not be able to tell the difference between Hussie being facetious and Hussie being serious or
exitmouse: (Get my drink on)

[personal profile] exitmouse 2012-09-09 02:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Short answer?

Yes.

I was going to make some kind of joke about writing canon-approved Nana/Bec fic now, but then I realized there is no joke funny enough to top the sadness of reality.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-09 04:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Well you can't use "Hussie said so!" as your entire argument if that doesn't apply to everything he ever said. Come on.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-09 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
A lesbian who says they are a lesbian or is defined as a lesbian by the person who literally created her out of nothing is a homosexual

this is not hard