[ SECRET POST #2076 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2076 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Hussie has indicated on formspring that Kanaya is an exception to typical troll pansexuality and is what humans would call a lesbian. Although that does make it pretty weird that Karkat would be so flabbergasted that humans have words to describe sexual orientation, when one of those words would apply to one of his closest friends.

[(Anonymous)]

He said "she has a kink for girls", which confirms a preference for girls but doesn't exclude guys. I'll side with the OP on this case.

[insanenoodlyguy]

I believe his exact words were that she would be by human standards, but wouldn't identify as one since trolls in fact lack a word for it, and by their culture's standards a sexual preferance would correspond to a minor kink most wouldn't even care about.

Though, as the OP actually points out, she has shown a desire to have a relaitonship trolls would consider romantic with several boys, so even that statement covers 1 to 2 quadrants at best, and again, the term wouldn't be one Kanaya would ever actually use.

Though there was some butthurt over the fact that her post scratch ancestor was apparently into guys and that's just hilarious.

[diet_poison]

her post scratch ancestor was apparently into guys

She was? Did I miss something?

[cloud_riven]

I thought that Meenah implied her as bi/pan by mentioning Porrim's revolving door of sexy or something (i can't recall the exact words), and even Kankri's slut shaming. The game confirmed Aranea/Porrim as a fling, but I don't remember it being specific about only being attracted to girls.

idk

I also took it her calling Karkat cute as awesome flirt-teasing because hell yeah Karkat's my fandom two-wheel device, and I'm instashipping that.

[diet_poison]

but Porrim is pre-scratch...?

When you said post-scratch I thought you mean Dolorosa

[cloud_riven]

Huh. They did say post-scratch. I wouldn't know where the Dolorosa/dudes would've come from since the only rom relationship in canon was the slave one with Mindfang.

I always get confused what to call the ancestors when it comes to scratching.

[diet_poison]

oh, sorry, I didn't realize that was you in that earlier comment

and yeah, that's what I was thinking.

And Porrim being a bicycle doesn't automatically imply being into males and females? Unless it said she slept with EVERYONE, but I don't remember. It could go either way and I'm not that invested in her sexuality lol. (I did think the way Aranea got all flustered when Meenah asked her about it was hilarious.)

[insanenoodlyguy]

Yeah, whoops. I fail at past and future tense.

[(Anonymous)]

Eh...that's not how I see it. There are certainly women who identify as lesbians who are a four, five, or six on the Kinsey scale, so I don't see that "if she were a human, she would be called a lesbian" as definite proof of non-bisexuality.

[(Anonymous)]

Hey, as a lesbian who considers herself a 5 on the Kinsey scale I'd still be pretty damn offended if someone called me bisexual. I have been incidentally attracted to men once or twice, but that does not invalidate my overwhelming preference for women, which is far more important to me.

[(Anonymous)]

Which is what I'm saying. Bisexuality is defined as a sexual attraction to men and women while homosexuality is the sexual attraction to only one gender. You're a five, but you choose to identify as a lesbian. It has nothing to do with invalidation. You choose to label yourself as something that you can't in the strictest sense be defined as. This is exactly the situation that I see Kanaya in.

[(Anonymous)]

Technical bisexuality, the best kind.

[(Anonymous)]

So you are invalidating my identity. You're saying that my rare and fleeting attractions to men are of as great import to how I choose to label myself as my overwhelmingly greater attraction to women, the fact that I only date women and have only dated women since I came out because identifying as bisexual led to more than one unhappy relationship with a man I was attracted to but not sexually, and the fact that I have only had and will only ever have sex with women.

Would you tell a straight person who admitted that they found a person of the same sex attractive once or twice in their life and never acted on such attraction, people who'd fall as 1s or 2s on the Kinsey scale, that they technically can't call themselves straight because of it?

There are more nuances in attraction and sexuality, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

[exitmouse]

So.

The creator calling her a lesbian isn't proof for you that she isn't bisexual.

I just want to be clear that this is what you are saying.

[(Anonymous)]

Depends on how you define lesbian. There are lesbians who are not strictly homosexual.

[exitmouse]

Actually I think in this case it depends on how Andrew Hussie defines lesbian.

However, since he has used the word bisexual before, clearly knows what it means, and has bisexual characters - I think he would have used the word bisexual if it were applicable to this character.

Again, the creator has stated that she's a lesbian. I am not sure it is actually possible to be more canon than that.

[(Anonymous)]

He's also said that all ships are officially canon.

So that settles it.

[(Anonymous)]

Jesus fuck are people in this fandom really so stone-cold idiotic as to not be able to tell the difference between Hussie being facetious and Hussie being serious or

[exitmouse]

Short answer?

Yes.

I was going to make some kind of joke about writing canon-approved Nana/Bec fic now, but then I realized there is no joke funny enough to top the sadness of reality.

[(Anonymous)]

Well you can't use "Hussie said so!" as your entire argument if that doesn't apply to everything he ever said. Come on.

[(Anonymous)]

A lesbian who says they are a lesbian or is defined as a lesbian by the person who literally created her out of nothing is a homosexual

this is not hard