[ SECRET POST #2084 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2084 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 094 secrets from Secret Submission Post #298.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

[intrigueing]

Given how popular Loki/Tony is, and the fact that people who try to justify that ship usually try to argue pretty much the exact same things that are in your secret, I'm inclined to agree with the last bit.

I disagree with the rest of the secret though, for the exact same reason I disagree with Loki/Tony: the sum total of both Tony and Natasha's interaction consisted of 1) "oh look, this guy is killing innocent people and acting all Hitler-ish" 2) "huh, this guy is an asshole who wants to conquer the world and is insulting me" 3) "damn, this guy just murdered one of my very few friends" 4) "lol, this guy is way less badass than all that bragging about his supposed badassery that he spent a whole lot of time trying to bully and threaten me with would have you believe".

All spread out over a period of a couple days, with about 3 minutes of one-on-one interaction in total.

And while I suppose Tony and Natasha could argue about whether getting thrown out a window or being called a cunt is worse, I think Natasha would still win because of the Clint thing. Having a guy brainwash and mindrape your best friend in the world sorta leaves a grudge, yo. Just don't see the relationship potential in that.

So basically, now that I've mused over it, I think Natasha narrowly beats out Tony for second place in the "who hates Loki's guts the most" contest (Clint gets first place, of course).

[(Anonymous)]

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[(Anonymous)]

Right you are, for all of this. :) The only Avenger really capable of forgiving Loki is Thor, at least as far as this movie is concerned; nobody seems inclined to accept that, though.

[sparklywalls]

Your comment sums up why I said it can only be a crack ship for me. The thing about Clint is part of it. Even if Natasha just wanted to indulge her primal desires and had a thing for Loki on a purely physical basis I just can't get past that she obviously has a history of sorts with Clint...and Loki basically turned Clint's mind inside out. Then he threatened to use Clint to torture and kill her. So yeah, while I can find it hot on a superficial level (I suppose) I just...can't ship it seriously.

Thor seems pretty willing to forgive Loki and I suppose you could achieve this ship in a way where Natasha talks to Thor a lot and sees Loki from a different angle...but nah, don't think it'll work. I feel the other Avengers will give Thor a bit of leeway for being Loki's brother and so emotionally attached, but ultimately not get why Thor keeps trying with him. The way things stand anyway. Obviously future films might change that.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I can't see any reason for the Avengers other than Thor to forgive Loki. It's not even a "you've done too many horrible things" deal, it's just that they have no connection to Loki whatsoever. They know him solely as "crazy megalomanical villain who brainwashed Clint, killed Coulson, and made Thor cry".

Slight tangent, but I actually always wondered if Tony would empathize with Thor the most over the Loki thing, because he knows what it's like for someone who was like family to you all your life betray you and try to kill you?

[(Anonymous)]

you and i see loki/tony very differently