[ SECRET POST #2098 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2098 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

(different anon)

http://satwcomic.com/multi-language

[(Anonymous)]

Pretty sure that was meant to be part of the joke? Like the America character didn't know Irish was a real language and thought it was a different English dialect like the others listed? Or at least, that's how I took it.

[mekkio]

That isn't just reaching, that is Cirque du Soleil bending.

[(Anonymous)]

I spat coffee, thanks >:

[(Anonymous)]

This is from her author comment on the same page:

"I was highly amused when an American told me he wanted to be more worldly by leaning languages and listed Irish as one of them. I know there's a few words that's different, but it still sounded funny.

EDIT: Okay so he probably meant Irish Gaelic, but then say Irish Gaelic. You'd be surprised by how little I know about languages so it helps to be specific. ;)"

I've had no opinion up until now, but oh WOW.

It's like...a perfect turnaround. She thinks it's funny Americans are so uneducated about different cultures, to the point of mistaking a different dialect as a different language--when, in reality, she was so uneducated she didn't know that Irish was actually a language. She tries to save face, but calling the language plain "Irish" is proper. You'd have to WANT to see the person you're speaking to as an idiot to think that they must have meant the "English language as spoken by Irishman" instead of "Irish Gaelic" when one says they're trying to learn "Irish", when speaking to you in English.

I mean, we she believes she represents a typical Dane, why would she make a joke about Americans not knowing much about languages, when she freely admits she doesn't?

[(Anonymous)]

That's really sad considering.

Although, I think most Americans know that Irish Gaelic exist considering the history of the Irish settlers in America, IMO.

[(Anonymous)]

Really? I know it exists. At least two of my close friends are/were trying to learn it.

[(Anonymous)]

Considering Irish is one of the top three most common ethnicities of white Americans and the American Irish population is very proud of its heritage, I would agree.

[(Anonymous)]

This is my main issue with humon: she's fucking ignorant.

As an American, I'm not going to say we're highly culturally aware BUT we're pretty good about other English dialects. Why? Because speakers of those dialects live in the US or feature in popular TV shows or movies. If monolingual English speakers can understand it, it's English. The proper English name for the English spoken in Ireland is Hiberno-English, Irish English, or just English. You can't say "Irish" and mean anything but Irish Gaelic.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

See, I knew that Ireland had another language, but I always thought of it as "Gaelic" not Irish. So I may be just as ignorant as she is.

[mekkio]

Oh, good Lord, that one is bad for so many reasons. For one thing, portraying America as not knowing that Spanish is a real language when it's the second most spoken language in the country. What? How did she even get to that conclusion? How ignorant is this artist?

[(Anonymous)]

She's Danish, isn't she? I guess she doesn't really research things. I mean I guess she didn't want to break America's 'LOL I AM SO IGNORANT' character that she didn't realize that it's pretty likely America would at least known (or even speak now since he turned brown to reflect the rising Latin@ population) but it doesn't still make sense since she could took the 'ENGLISH ONLY' route.

But I do hate her America though.

[luxshine]

Didn't he turned brown because of Obama winning the election? I don't follow the comic, but I think I remember that coming up on Deviantart..

[(Anonymous)]

the skin changing thing is some pretty skeevy shit either way imo

but then again everything about humon is skeevy as fuck

[luxshine]

Oh, totally! I just think that we shouldn't fall into the trap of accusing her of something horrible she didn't do... when she has done more than enough horrible things.

[erinptah]

He turned brown because it was summer and he got a tan.

You know critics are going overboard when they cry "skeevy racial implications!" at the natural response of many Caucasian people's skin to extended sun exposure :/

ETA: okay, misremembered slightly -- it was a spray tan, not a natural one. Still not a racial thing, is my point.

[luxshine]

two things:

One, if he turned brown due to a tan... why is he still brown? A tan doesn't last 4 years.

Two: While yes, caucasian people tends to tan, in my experience the only people who use that as a punchline for a comicstrip... tend to be pretty racist themselves and apologize later because 'it was just a tan joke'...

Answer to your ETA: Funny, that strip was not when she gave the ORIGINAL reason for America turning brown. I had to hunt the link but here it is Reality Hits. Also, it was done in 2009, way before she introduces Sister America.

[(Anonymous)]

No, parts of his arms have become increasingly dark while the rest remained the same.

[(Anonymous)]

I thought her portrayal of India was pretty offensive, most Indians (or those who claim to be) I've met online seem pretty pissed about it.

It seems to be a bit of a stretch to say that she's creating a stereotype of a stereotype, and I'm pretty sure her notes on the comics are not ironic.

[(Anonymous)]

He turned brown because of the black population.

[(Anonymous)]

Really fucking ignorant. She has no clue about the US (for example, she thinks the US is getting more black, not more Hispanic) and doesn't want to learn, yet uses the country as the butt of most of her jokes. It's annoying, too, because most Americans don't know where Scandinavia is, let alone care enough to be constantly meddling in their business.

I mean, this would be like me writing a comic making fun of Finland not knowing Swedish is a real language and being scared that the German population is wildly increasing. She has no idea what she's talking about.

[(Anonymous)]

I dislike humon as well, but please take a look at American satire such as Family Guy. Don't tell me they always do research on the topics they want to take a piss on. They just want to offend and make people laugh about others.

The thing is that humon's America obviously is an American stereotype. I live in Germany and one common joke about Americans is that they're ignorant and proud of it.
It doesn't matter if real Americans do this or that, HER America is a stereotype and so he will behave according to this.

Her comics are nothing but stereotypes, most of them negative.
I wouldn't even care for them if she wouldn't constantly state that everything she draws is truth and has RL reasons.
After all those years I prefer to think of her as an epic troll. I can handle her shit better that way.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, I'm not against satire, but humon does not distinguish between stereotypes and reality. She genuinely thinks that what she puts in her comics is a consensus of each country's way of thinking, and that's offensive.

Europeans shit on the US all the time, often hypocritically, but humon takes it to an extreme. The US doesn't even care enough about Scandinavia to have any real stereotypes about them (except for the women being hot, the furniture being impossible, and the people speaking with double stress), so constantly putting America in her comics is just poking fun to be poking fun.

[(Anonymous)]

Sweet mother of God, if you're from Texas or any state bordering Mexico, your ass had better learn at least a little Spanish to be fully functional. I don't live Stateside atm, and will soon be moving back to a heavily Hispanic area (I'm originally from Texas, but carrying off to Cali), and I'm considering learning Spanish for this very reason. The last time I was home, maybe it was because I had been away so long, but Spanish is everywhere.

Now; one would be forgiven for modifying that a little: for a while there were some dumb shits on the fringes whining about how much Spanish is spoken in America. So it would be more accurate for America to be bitching about how "we speak English in America!" but it still wouldn't be accurate to say that everyone in America feels the same way. They lost the argument about press one for English, after all.

[(Anonymous)]

Basically what I said about race about: The country reflects a need for Spanish.

But the LOUDER part of the country, although not the larger one, is all "WE SPEAK AMERICAN!" There is an ever-growing and frightening movement to make English the official language of the US, thereby meaning that interpreters for ANY language, Spanish included, would be unnecessary. It would destroy our boarders and our culture to do so, but the movement is there and growing.

So, yeah. There is a vocal, and not small, group of people in the government and in the general populace who are going "SPANISH ISN'T A REAL LANGUAGE HERE IN AMERICA". Whereas the majority who see the need are much quieter and much more sane. And guess which faction gets the coverage overseas?