[ SECRET POST #2099 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2099 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 085 secrets from Secret Submission Post #300.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - pretty much unreadable ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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Comments

[mutantjules.livejournal.com]

a lesbian character turn straight

ah yes, cause no other sexual identities than 100% Straight and 100% Gay exist in this world, no sir

[(Anonymous)]

It does get weird when lesbians are shown with more men than women though. And when that happens with a lot of lesbian characters.

With her and with Willow, if a girl is significantly into guys too, what's so wrong about saying the B word?

[mutantjules.livejournal.com]

Well, you're definitely not wrong about that

though yeah bro. Bi girl here. Still, I saw that episode and I was fucking delighted. ("OH MY GOD SOMEONE ON TV IS ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT SEXUALITY IN A NON-MONO WAY, NOT JUST LIKE 'OH I'M GONNA MAKE OUT WITH SOME GIRLS RIGHT AROUND SWEEPS WEEK HOW ABOUT THAT' BUT JUST A STATEMENT AND SHE'S ONLY SAYING IT NOT JUST ABOUT HERSELF BUT TO MAKE A POINT ABOUT JOHN TOO AND IT'S ON A SHOW THAT I LIKE HOLY SHIT--!!!!") Then I hit the internet and was greeted by a storm of anger =/

yeah, Willow too. Hilariously, I'm only just watching Buffy properly-all-the-way-through for the first time now, and I'm still in season 4 when she's with Oz, and I'm....not sure how I'll feel when she gets with Tara and (from what I remember) automatically starts calling herself gay. Even though she definitely had both sexual attraction and romantic attraction for more than one dude before. But at the same time a label is something you put on yourself that you feel most accurately represents how you feel and I'm not here to invalidate another person's whatever and and I have Complicated Feelings about lots of things!

(..man, just getting involved in this thread may come back to bite me)

[(Anonymous)]

On the one hand, the way Willow is shown is something that happens with real life lesbians. On the other, I'm pretty sure that the writers didn't have their minds made up about who the gay character was going to be, just that they'd have one, and that leads me to just view her characterization as sloppy and ill handled on that front. If they wrote her to identify as bi, the weirdness wouldn't be there.

I'd like more prominent lesbians to be monosexual, I was starving for that in my teen years and always felt jerked around when a self proclaimed lesbian got it on with a guy.

[mutantjules.livejournal.com]

That's true too! Otherwise "gold-star lesbians" wouldn't even be a thing, would it, cause that would be the way it always happened.

hah, and here's me where it's been the opposite - characters lead het lives until they suddenly don't and I'm like "OH SNAP, A CHARACTER LIKE ME" and then they always bypass what seems to be the obvious and happily proclaim "I'm gay!" and I'm like "....? What, are you afraid to say it? JUST SAY IT!!! IT'S A THING, LOOK IT UP! (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bisexuality)" (I guess the thing is that I see this example so much less, but yeah, a lesbian-identifying lady bangin' dudes and still saying "I'm gay, y'all" can still make me feel like everyone wants to OMG AVOID using my label. Doesn't mean it's not a thing that ever happens, but....yeah)

[(Anonymous)]

It bothers me when characters say they're lesbians and start falling in love with guys. In fact, it annoys me when "lesbians" irl do this too. Why can't they just say they're bi with a preference for women?

[(Anonymous)]

It's one thing if there's a guy or two in their post coming out history, or if they happen to fall for a guy after being only into women post coming out, and they don't want to change their label right away until they see where it goes. It gets confusing if they then marry that guy, or actively pursue and crush on guys all the time. Yeah, no one can define anyone's sexuality but their own, but mixing lesbian and bisexual like that is making those labels totally non functional. Maybe that's the point? IDK.

[republicanism]

someone switched my bisexual label with campbells tomato soup and now i sit in the microwave, waiting in vain for love


:(

[mutantjules.livejournal.com]

man, I'd SO love it if more people were comfortable with a bisexual label, but studies as far back as the 40's put a scale on it, where there are varying degrees even for people who comfortably call themselves gay or straight.

[(Anonymous)]

The Kinsey scale? I think that scale was looking at encounters, not necessarily preferences. Everyone's going to be having more het sex back then, just through social pressure and many not even knowing that homo sex was a thing.


If you use the scale to talk about preferences, it still makes sense for those next to the ends to call themselves gay or straight. Why define yourself by that one het or homo experience in college? Or having a crush on a celebrity? But yeah, on a scale of 0 - 6, 2,3,4 are all very much bi, even if 2 and 4 lean.

[tenlittlebullets]

Why can't they just say they're bi with a preference for women?

IDK, couldn't possibly have anything to do with not having to defend your existence at length to biphobic identity-policing shitstains. Or with not getting sexually harassed/assaulted by douchebags who think that if you've ever looked upon a cock without revulsion you're obligated to give their cock a chance, preferably after providing some Hawt Girl-On-Girl Action.

In a reasonably comfortable environment, yeah, I default to "queer" as a catchall and will happily specify "into ladies overall, will occasionally kiss pretty boys." But if my safety's at stake or it's really not the moment for elaborate heart-to-heart explanations and "lesbian" is the concept that will penetrate someone's thick skull, gosh, I'm so sorry for not worrying about whether 90% precision is enough to satisfy the Gay Police.