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avoiding how? I'll generally read everything, and have no particular OTPs that are better than others.

Quitting fandoms outright is dependent on misunderstanding how to label warnings, and whether or not the fem side of het parings requests gets equal attention. the other parts of my list help to balance out the second thing, but not caring about warnings is a pretty clear signal to stay away.

Because these are things that don't encourage people to write. They are all things that encourage people not to write.

Let's start with label warnings: on the surface it should be a no duh kind of thing, but it's not. Every single meme I've seen that has gotten tough on warning labels has gone through the same sort of ache: who gets to define what is non-con and what's dub con, what needs to be warned for and what doesn't? It's always inspired a group of people who squick over non-con bringing up real life rape and complaining about how disrespectful people are to those with that kink. What happens if a fic that wasn't originally ment to be non-con organically ends up going that direction?

The memes that fly best are the ones where people warn as a courtesy not as a requirement, and where it's generally considered to be a read-at-your-own risk environment. In that, your test would not be useful.

Now onto the strict percentages of cunnilingus to fellatio. That's not how writers work. They can't write by quota. They write by inspiration. You can't make more cunnilingus fics appear if there is no one inspired to create them. All you can do is discourage people from writing fics with fellatio. And once you start discouraging people from writing and prompting the fics they truly want, then the meme starts to die.

You can choose to fill prompts based on your quota system, or to prompt based on it, but that's the extent to which that quota system is helpful.

Hmmm... then I oversimplified fellatio vs cunnilingus, and a lot of poorly worded sentiment on my part then. I don't want a quota, but it was a really simplistic way for me to say that there's equal attention all around, rather than the woman being degraded or secondary to the man getting off in open het prompts/requests that don't specifically ask for that. Some kink memes I've ended up equating the two in my head, because the trend was to describe them as unpleasant, or the overall feeling was that the woman wasn't supposed to enjoy herself, in any way.

so... my mistake

As for warnings and labels... I guess I will have to disagree? I understand what you're saying, but I'm on the other side of that discussion. Noncon triggers me outright, and dubcon triggers on bad days. I would like to be aware of what I'm getting into before I'm hit by it, or so that I can come back to it when I'm in the right head space.

...but I don't engage in discussions about whether or not it should be enforced, and I try to stay out of those arguments, because of what you said--that it turns into some big squick dog pile, which is sometimes worse than accidentally stumbling into an unlabeled dub/non con story. I just wish that it's recognized as important. Oftentimes people who don't warn and are politely asked to... react defensively, and I just... don't think that's okay, either.

What if people do give the het side of pairings equal attention, but stay away from cunnilingus?

I'll be honest with you: cunnilingus is one of my biggest turn offs. It is one of the few things that will make me automatically back-button if it's in a fic, and by extension, I will not write it. But when I do write het, I would hope that just because my het fics do not include that particular act that you would judge them, and by extension the entire fandom, based on that.

I mean, I think I do pretty good in having everyone in the fic get an enjoyable time, at least. Writing an entire fandom off because a certain act is not preferred seems to be a bit extreme.

then it falls under #4, which is consensual fun times had by all.

The cunnilingus part isn't really the point of the 2nd condition. It's mostly because there are particular fandoms who tend to degrade the fem side of a het paring, or not write her as having any kind of... enjoyment, or very temporary enjoyment, or is generally unimportant.

I oversimplified it, so... it's poor wording on my part. =/

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