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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-08 06:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #2106 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2106 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-10-08 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah...considering what this show is and what this pairing is based on I am not suprised at all. I mean c'mon, what more can you expect from a fandom who watches a show called "Teen Wolf". (They're probs not in it for the deep discourse, is what I'm saying.)

(Anonymous) 2012-10-08 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
There's plenty of discourse and discussion in the Teen Wolf fandom. It's not all just about hot guys.

Whatever happened to don't judge a book by its cover, or a show by its title?

(Anonymous) 2012-10-08 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I've watched the showed too. A season and a half?


There's also plenty (more) vapid teh-hot-boys porn.

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[personal profile] kijikun 2012-10-08 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, aren't you a real winner.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-09 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
You know, I think I've seen more "deep discourse" for TW (and over tumblr, mind you) than I've seen for many 'serious' shows. Yes, people conclude by adding tags about their FEELS~ but it's all there if you look for it.


And to the secret OP: look for better fic, come on.

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[personal profile] superuser 2012-10-09 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
it makes me think of a synthesis between a slice of life highschool manga and all those deviantart wolf comics

sequel to teen wolf: wolf teen. awkward teenage wolf goes through the trials and tribulations of wolf high school. will he get picked last for the hunting team?? will he work up the courage to invite whitepaw to the wolf prom??
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[personal profile] b_dangerous 2012-10-10 07:35 am (UTC)(link)
Can someone explain to me why Stiles would actually like Derek? Or does it come down to the basic "THEY OPENLY SHOW DISTASTE FOR ONE ANOTHER, SO THAT MEANS THEY LOVE EACHOTHER" shipping logic?
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[personal profile] visp 2012-10-08 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
... well he is.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-08 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
am I the only one who really doesn't think so? he looks kind of bland to me. and too pale. ///different strokes.

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(Anonymous) 2012-10-09 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
i think he is attractive but the fact that he looks way too much like someone i know irl will always stop me from taking him seriously. dumb reason but yeah...

(Anonymous) 2012-10-08 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Isn't that why a lot of people are initially attracted to someone? Because they find them hot?
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[personal profile] velvet_mace 2012-10-08 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Well... it is his most obvious asset. Because canon Derek's kinda a dickwad.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-08 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
And kind of violent, a failure as a leader and family member, not that smart, lives in condemned buildings... It's pretty much his only asset.

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(Anonymous) 2012-10-08 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
you must only be reading shitty fics, because for the most part, to the point where it's feeling like it's in every single fic i read, there's some mention of how Stiles isn't ~blind~ he knows Derek's hot but because he's such a dick/grump/creep/~*sourwolf Stiles doesn't acknowledge anything to himself about it until after they grudgingly fall madly in snarky love due to circumstances/tropes/magical bonding etc...
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[personal profile] rivia 2012-10-08 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
in a lot of the ones i've read (and liked) that's how it starts out, and is generally developed on from there. i mean, they're the two in the main group that have lost family members, so there'd be some degree of empathy for each other. plus, lbr, derek's not gotten much character development and we don't really know what sort of person he was like before The Fire and what he does when he isn't creeping or in dangerous situations. writers get free reign to come up with stuff that stiles and he could have in common. my favourite is closet nerd!derek.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-08 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
What the hell kind of fic are you reading? In everything I read, it's A reason (obviously - kind of goes with the territory), but it's rarely the only or most important reason.
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[personal profile] countess_k 2012-10-09 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
According to those who have watched the show there is little else in canon to cause him to like Derek as they have very little screen time together.
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[personal profile] jain 2012-10-09 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
This is really not the case. Stiles and Derek don't share as much screentime as other pairs of characters, but in the times that they're together, they do things like save each other's lives and work together to defeat outside threats. Which isn't to say that all of their interactions are positive; Derek also does things like physically intimidate Stiles, threaten the lives of a couple of Stiles's classmates, etc. Depending on viewer interpretation, equally strong arguments could be made for Stiles liking Derek, disliking Derek, or being wary of Derek to the point where he's unsure whether he likes or dislikes him. The one thing you can't say, though, is that they've interacted so little as to be indifferent to each other.

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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2012-10-09 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
They're not exactly two people with a ton of things in common (that aren't Scott) and interaction based on mutual respect and fondness. I mean, I imagine it's mostly on the writer to magic up some ways they would realistically get together, and animal attraction is the shortest path to special naked time.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-09 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
That's why instead of Sterek, I ship Derek/Spencer. At least they're both fiercely attractive.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-09 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
In practically all of the "Sterek" fic I've read, it usually boils down to the whole "Mating Instinct" / "You're my Mate" situation.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-09 07:59 am (UTC)(link)
That's how attraction works, though.

The person I like now? Is adorable, has quirky interests (much like me so I approve) and highly intelligent and good at conversing. The reason I began crushing on them, though? They're hot.
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[personal profile] les_lenne 2012-10-09 03:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not really a Sterek shipper and only read Sterek fics because the pairing makes up 90% of all fanwork and I find lots of stuff in Sterek fics really ... odd.

But! Personally, I think Stiles sees the Good Man™ hidden in Derek. He saves him at the pool because he knows Derek isn't really the Big Bad Wolf, and the little conversation they have when they're both paralyzed, the looks they share during that scene, it just screams "I trust you" and "I see you as an equal*" to me. And I don't get that impression from a lot of interactions between Derek and another character. So if I were writing a Sterek fic, I'd use those things as a starting point for Stiles' crush on Derek.

* not so much in the physical power department, of course
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[personal profile] jain 2012-10-09 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I've seen the stories you're talking about, but I've also read fic in which the author seems to make a point of having Stiles list all of the things he likes about Derek other than his looks. I have one open right now, actually: A Work in Progress by [archiveofourown.org profile] entanglednow. Find the section that begins "Shit, you know how pissed I am at you right now, for thinking that about me?" to see Stiles declaim Derek's awesomeness for two full paragraphs. And I know I've read similar passages in other stories, though I can't place any of them right now.
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