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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-13 03:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #2111 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-10-13 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
It's one of the evils you learn in school. Like not writing "say".

The worst I've ever seen was (which works "better" in German) "the one who had just gotten dressed".

(Anonymous) 2012-10-13 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh, I know. "Use overwrought dialogue attributions instead of repeating yourself because repetition is THE WORST."

No. Please don't. It's terrible.

What boggles the mind is that any writing tips article worth its salt will advice you not to do this. Do people just avoid reading those?

(Anonymous) 2012-10-13 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay I meant "advise." Whoops.

[identity profile] fae-elric.livejournal.com 2012-10-13 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
This is why translating stories from Japanese is the worst. Apparently that is an actual accepted thing you can do, so they do it ALL the time. Especially when it's a short story in which the author has not provided names for any of the characters (which is pretty much all I've dealt with).

(Anonymous) 2012-10-13 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
And again I wonder how 50 Shades got popular, with all its murmuring. I don't even know what this word means anymore, and it's absolutely ruined for me. Like Twilight ruined "chagrin".

(Anonymous) 2012-10-13 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, agreed!

It tends to annoy me when it's overused. But sometimes I just remember how my first short stories looked like (thanks to my teachers) and suddenly I can't be mad anymore.

What immediatly grinds my gears, though, is when people constantly use "the older/younger man/woman". No, just.. no.
I prefer hair colors over age comparison XD
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[personal profile] stuck4aname 2012-10-13 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Especially when the characters haven't even been assigned ages in canon, so you have to work out who 'the older man' is from context. And in that case, what's the point?
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[personal profile] szaleniec1000 2012-10-13 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Or when "the older man" is 36 rather than 35.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-14 07:57 am (UTC)(link)
Or when "the older man" is 18 and the younger is like 16/17, it's tacky. I just get a picture in my head the older one aged 40 years overnight and that's not what I want to see in the middle of a romantic or smut scene.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-14 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Most of the writing advice that I've seen actually advises against overusing alternative dialogue markers in lieu of say, though? Yes, it gets repetitive if you use "say" after every single line of dialogue, but the alternatives are something that need to be used in moderation, or they get extremely distracting. I'm not opposed to a "whispered" or a "mumbled" or an "asked" or what have you here and there (and sometimes they're the better choice), but you just need to be careful not to go overboard. And, you know, realize that you don't have to put a dialogue tag on every single line of dialogue you write, since that gets old really fast.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-14 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
I think that was their point, though? The overuse of increasingly 'creative' epithets comes from the same line of thinking that teaches kids not to use the same dialogue tag over and over again. Because being restricted to the character's name and a pronoun is apparently 'too boring'.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-14 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Yeah, that's what I said.