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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-16 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2114 ]


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Re: REVERSE ATTACK

(Anonymous) 2012-10-17 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Where I live, not all white kids are bad kids. But all the bad kids are white. Even the white people in the community know and acknowledge this; it's just the truth, plain and simple.
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Re: REVERSE ATTACK

[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-10-17 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Your definition of "bad" must be quite narrow...
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Re: REVERSE ATTACK

[personal profile] tyger66 2012-10-17 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
So you've never EVER seen a non-white child behaving badly? You don't know ANYONE non-white who has trouble-making children? Or who has a child with a discipline problem? And EVERY white person there agrees that it is entirely dependent on the race of the parents? What about Asian children adopted by white parents? Or children of parents with differing races? Where do black people come in? Also, at what point does a kid acquire the label "bad"?

I'm just interested in how you know that 100% of the "bad" kids are white, or that their parents are.

See, where I live, the majority of the children/teenagers with disciplinary or legal issues are African-American. Does this mean that they ALL are? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Does this mean that African-American parents need to "get their shit together"? JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, NO.

INDIVIDUAL families have trouble with unruly children. Individual COUPLES aren't able to control their kids. AN ENTIRE RACE does not "let their kids run wild".

In my eyes, this is racism. Plain and simple.

Re: REVERSE ATTACK

(Anonymous) 2012-10-17 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
It's not such much the actual race of the person, than white cultural values vs. Asian culture values.
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Re: REVERSE ATTACK

[personal profile] tyger66 2012-10-17 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, but you still haven't said what makes a child "bad".

Because YOU might consider ME a "bad" kid, but I can guarantee you my mother doesn't see me that way. We get along very well, despite what you might characterize as disrespect or insolence on my part.

Re: REVERSE ATTACK

(Anonymous) 2012-10-17 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
This actually reminds me of how my mom and I will teasingly call each other things like asshole and bitch. And fake fight sometimes lol

We don't mean it, of course, but to other people it could probably look terrible.
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TL;DR SORRY FOR THE ESSAY.

[personal profile] tyger66 2012-10-17 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
YES my mother and I are just like that! She's always like "YOU WHORE", then I say "IT TAKES ONE TO KNOW ONE," etc.

My friends are kind of in awe of the relationship I have with my mom, but it's all due to the fact that she is incredibly awesome. She and I go see ALL the movies together (her favorite is Harold and Kumar go to White Castle, lol), and half the time I hang out with my friends, my mom is there, being the coolest and most badass of them all. She is really my best friend.

So I understand why some would say that "white culture" leads to disrespectful children, but I would rather be able to tell my mom ANYTHING, and get along with her like equals than be a perfect child who is scared to death of disappointing her. It helps that I am 21, so legally, we ARE equals. But even when I was younger, my parents treated me with respect, instead of handing out strict discipline at every turn. They taught, me to love learning, so I learn a lot; they taught me to be ambitious, so I am; they taught me to be my own person, and I'm definitely that, and all without a single caning, or any discipline worse than a few spankings as a young child.

And I'm not saying other cultures raise their children WRONG, either. I'm just saying that the way I was raised worked, and "white culture" =/= bad children. BAD PARENTS are generally what leads to bad children.
Edited (urghh typos) 2012-10-17 01:35 (UTC)

Re: TL;DR SORRY FOR THE ESSAY.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-17 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

yessss I've never met anyone who has that kind of relationship with their mother like I do.

I feel like respect went a long way towards my discipline. Knowing that my mother respected me curbed any really bad things I might have done. I didn't wanna lose that respect.
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Re: TL;DR SORRY FOR THE ESSAY.

[personal profile] tyger66 2012-10-17 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I've done some really bad things (one really bad thing especially), and the worst consequence of all was losing the respect of my mother. I've had to work very hard to get it back, and I'm going to spend the rest of my life making sure I don't let her down again. It was much more devastating than any physical or legal punishment could ever be, and I could cry right now just thinking back on that time of my life when I knew that I had lost my mother's respect. I hurt her in a way that I will regret forever, and as a result I'm going to be a better person than I ever was before, so that I don't hurt anyone else in the same way.

(Just to be clear I didn't literally *hurt* her, but I let her down big time arghhh EMOTIONAL PAIN GO AWAY PLEASE)

Re: REVERSE ATTACK

(Anonymous) 2012-10-17 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Trying running the children's department at a bookstore in a really ethnically and racially diverse area (my nearest high school has about forty native languages among its students), and you will learn that people OF ANY RACE can be assholes and have disrespectful children. It's just the truth, plain and simple.

Re: REVERSE ATTACK

(Anonymous) 2012-10-17 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
Or just work in a school.
Any school.

Re: REVERSE ATTACK

(Anonymous) 2012-10-17 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Or in a public library. Probably--actually I'm just going to say certainly, even though I've never worked in one--in a toy store. Any place you get lots of kids in public, basically. Amusement parks must be horrifying to work in sometimes.