[ SECRET POST #2116 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2116 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Deacon Frost, Blade]


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[Luke Wilson]


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[Transformers: Shattered Glass]


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, I don't agree here. I think that the comparison between Billy and Teddy (Billy having a full, live family that totally accepts him while Teddy saw his mother die in front of his eyes and two galactical empires are fighting to take him away) was there to show how much better Billy has it, and how he should always be happy for it. I believe it was there to show that right now, Billy is all Teddy's got. And that's what Billy doesn't seem to realize. Teddy really wants to make Billy happy, but he also tries to keep him safe because Billy is really all he has right now, and Billy just seems to ignore it like WHOA, flinging himself continuously into danger alone and generally not showing even a bit of concern about Teddy's feelings.

I'm actually glad there're going to be some problems in their relationship, because perfect relationships are both boring and unrealistic. It's about time something will happen. And if they can come out stronger and closer because of it, all the better. I don't believe Gillen has any intentions of breaking them up or anything.

I believe Tommy was hinted to come at some point later in the story. Gillen did say that the YA won't come together out of their own choice, but because Loki will manipulate them to work together. It might be that he simply plays no part in Loki's plan ATM, but he will come in later when he hears they're together again or something.

As for Miss America leading the team- it wasn't hinted anywhere, but it might be plausible. I don't think there's anything wrong with that- after all, Cap was the newbie when he came onboard and he turned to a leader pretty quickly. And she has leading experience. And it was said that Kate and Chavez will play off each other, so it might be a struggle for dominance like it was with Eli and Kate.

And what's wrong with the Young Avengers looking for other young heroes? The Avengers roster isn't static, why should the Young Avengers roster be?

[muccamukk]

I like your interpritation of Billy and Teddy. As long as they don't break them up, I wouldn't mind a bit more drama in the relationship. They're teenagers for god's sake.

Cap was only made the team leader of the Avengers because all the other Avengers left the team, so that might not be the best example :D

I'm interested to see what Chavez is about. I liked her in Point One, but haven't read her team book. Possibly someone to slash Kate with too (though I'm still pretty bitter that Cassie's been sacrificed to the alter of Scot Lang's eternal manpain).

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

I agree with your first paragraph for the most part (minus the whole "he should be happy with it" because frankly I think after all that Billy's been through, the whole "he should just be happy to have a family and ignore EVERYTHING ELSE EVER" is complete bullshit), but.. not your second really at all. Friction is fine, but they described it as basically Teddy sneaking around behind Billy's back and lying to him, and Billy's finding out being like finding out Teddy's cheating on him, and.. that's just no. That is a HUGE no.

(Also you totally just called my relationship boring and unrealistic. We are not :( lol)

Ugh, I still completely hate the "Loki manipulates everyone to come together" idea. It's so contrived and stupid. Uggggh. Not helpful. Not making me feel better.

Agree on Miss America, but idk how I'll feel about her until I see her. :\ hmm.

It's not that there's anything wrong with them looking for other heroes. It's that the new team said the comic series Young Avengers will be looking AT other young heroes and young hero teams that have nothing to do with and won't have anything to do with the Young Avengers. I don't think you should call it YA if it isn't about them.

And.. yeah, I like my rosters more static than not. I actually really dislike reading comics if the characters I care about aren't on the team anymore (which explains why I have a hard time finding Avengers comics I enjoy). I'll check out the new YA because it has Billy, Teddy and Kate, but if they, say, got rid of Billy or Teddy, or keep Tommy gone, I'll probably be out, too.

[(Anonymous)]

I refuse to believe you have had a meaningful relationship with another human being that has been completely conflict-free.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Have you ever heard of this thing called a joke?

[(Anonymous)]

so what are you trying to say? That Billy and Teddy's relationship (which is supposedly comparable with yours IRL) should be problem-free or not?

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Oops, I meant to write "I don't think that the comparison between Billy and Teddy was there to show how much better Billy has it, and how he should always be happy for it."

Also, I wouldn't say Teddy going around being a superhero is exactly 'cheating' on Billy. AIt's not like he has to stay at home and do nothing just because Billy does it. And are you telling me you never had any conflict with anyone you know? Really? I find it extremely hard to believe.

Have you read JiM? It's not conrived at all. That's what Kid Loki does.

Well, tough for you, I guess. Comic book teams roster rarely stays the same forever. And who knows? Maybe you'll grow to like and care about Noh-Varr, Miss America and Loki?

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Ohhh, that makes a lot more sense, lol. But that's what the team seem to be doing? Especially with the promo thing for the new run, which is all "Billy thinks he's lost everything, Teddy has actually lost everything" bullshit. :\

Oh, no, I didn't say it was like cheating. I was saying that's the comparison the new writer in charge of YA used - that Billy felt like he was being cheated on, or something.

And yes, I've had conflict with people I know. But no, I've never had an SO sneak around behind my back and lie to me... unless it was for a secret, special surprise. Not because they're doing something they know I would be really upset if I found out about.

In the context of YA, it's really contrived.

Maybe.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but Billy's demand seems a little unreasonable. Like I said, just because Billy does something, Teddy isn't obligated to do exactly the same thing, and just because Billy quit being a superhero, doesn't mean Teddy should, too. And it's not like they haven't talked about it, and Teddy hadn't expressed his opinions, so you can't say he didn't try. Why is this such a huge no?

And why is Loki manipulating them so contrived?

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Yeah, but I still think sneaking around behind his back and lying to him about it is shitty. Much worse than making an unreasonable demand after going through all manner of hell and being seriously depressed. If Teddy were at least honest about what he was doing, I wager Billy would get over it and it'd work out. But he's sneaking around -- not unlike a guy who's cheating on his boyfriend.

I just really dislike manipulation of one person as the plot device to hook up a team. idk, it's just irritating to me.

[(Anonymous)]

Ugh, I still completely hate the "Loki manipulates everyone to come together" idea. It's so contrived and stupid.

I don't get how that's contrived when manipulating people is what Loki does. Not to mention that that story line is a call back to the inadvertent role that Loki played in the formation of the original Avengers team back in the day. If anything, I think it sounds like an interesting way to both pull some of the old members of the team back together while drawing in the new members alongside them.

[muccamukk]

+1 My initial reaction to reading Point One and seeing that Kid Loki was getting the Young Avengers together was D'awwwwww. I think it's a really sweet tribute to classic Avengers.