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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-19 06:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2117 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2117 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Slenderman/Cthulu]


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07. http://i.imgur.com/AAVIZ.jpg
[Bo Sinclair / House of Wax (2005); image contains possibly-triggery scars, no self-harm stuff in the text though]


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[Wil Wheaton]


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[Guardians of the Galaxy]


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[The King of Fighters: KYO manga and game]


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14. [SPOILERS for Star Trek Voyager: The Eternal Tide]



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15. [SPOILERS for Damages]



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16. [SPOILERS for Frankenweenie]



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17. [SPOILERS for Big Brother 14]



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18. [SPOILERS for Resident Evil 6]



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19. [WARNING for suicide]

[The Walking Dead]


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20. [WARNING for incest]

[A Night at the Roxbury]


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21. [WARNING for child abuse]



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Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #302.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

THIS

(Anonymous) 2012-10-20 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I immediatly thought of the woman from Feminist Frequency who wanted to do a series on misogyny in the gaming industry and what happened? Gamer dudes threatetend to rape her or beat her up. She received thousands of "get back into the kitchen, there is no misogyny in gaming" type of comments, gamer dudes found out her address and phone number and harrassed her IRL and last but not least, a dude created a popular online game that consisted of beating her to death.

And all that happened just because she announced the series. Not a single episode had been made yet.

What about Brony fandom and Yamino, who is STILL target of hate and death threats, even though Hasbro officials have announced she had nothing to do with the change of "Derpy".

What about that rapist in Brony fandom, who got backed up by hundreds of Co-Bronies just because he was male and "all women lie about rape".

And people actually talk about evil women trying to keep men out of fandom?
These women are a.) a minority and b.) have no power at all to achieve their "goal".

Re: THIS

(Anonymous) 2012-10-20 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Different anon than anyone else.

I hate this argument. Equality for all means all. Doesn't matter WHICH group is doing it. Minority, majority or a single person. Everyone should be Called Out. You don't automatically get a pAss for bad behavior just because you are minority. That does nothing but confound the problem.

Re: THIS

(Anonymous) 2012-10-20 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
With the difference that when men create "safe spaces" it's treehouses they need to make rape jokes and talk sexist trash about women without getting called out on it. When women create "safe spaces" it's because they want to avoid the harassment they usually face through men.

Treating both cases equally is impossible because their motivations are completely different.
It's like calling a black person out on shouting "black power" just because white people get called out when shouting "white power".
This kind of "equality" belongs into MRA territory.

But of course I agree on everything that was said in this thread about women randomly declaring an ENTIRE FANDOM to be their "safe space". That's plain unfair and also kind of childish.

Re: THIS

(Anonymous) 2012-10-20 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
See, that's not what I see it. Calling out "black power" and "white power" doesn't hurt anyone. In theory, at least. It does have the ABILITY to hurt someone, sure, depending on context. Everything does.

Telling a woman she should be raped, or a man that he can't take part in a fanfiction forum, are both transgressions against people enjoying themselves. Sure, the magnitude of "you should be raped" is a hell of a lot greater than "you can't be here. Go away. This is OUR sandbox". Not denying that. However, both things hurt someone. One by threatening safety, the worse of the two, and one by saying someone doesn't have the right to have fun even if they're not actually misbehaving (well, actually BOTH circumstances are doing that). What the people who defend this behavior from women are basically saying is "Well, men treat you like crap. Therefore it's ok for you to treat COMPLETELY DIFFERENT men like crap back"

Fandom is not real world, but if the magnitudes were the same I would see it as basically saying to women that because men pay them worse and harass them at work, it would be ok for them to hold up a convenience store owned by a man they've never met.