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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-19 06:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2117 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2117 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Bo Sinclair / House of Wax (2005); image contains possibly-triggery scars, no self-harm stuff in the text though]


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[The King of Fighters: KYO manga and game]


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14. [SPOILERS for Star Trek Voyager: The Eternal Tide]



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15. [SPOILERS for Damages]



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19. [WARNING for suicide]

[The Walking Dead]


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20. [WARNING for incest]

[A Night at the Roxbury]


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21. [WARNING for child abuse]



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(Anonymous) 2012-10-20 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
I have never seen anyone say this even once in my entire fandom life. And if it does happen, I'm 100% positive that the woman in question would get absolutely dogpiled for it because oh no what about teh menz

meanwhile, real women are constantly harrassed in male-dominated fandoms in a public manner that is easy for everyone to see, and no one gives a damn. but nah, who cares about them we should focus on these poor fictional men who have this terrible fictional problem

(Anonymous) 2012-10-20 07:10 am (UTC)(link)
+∞
ariakas: (man walks on fucking moon)

[personal profile] ariakas 2012-10-20 10:44 am (UTC)(link)
I have never seen anyone say this even once in my entire fandom life.

Same. And I've been here, and in male-dominated fandom spaces, longer than many fans have been alive. The only time I've ever seen anything happen even remotely close to it - a group of men joining a community was changing the tenor of the discussion there, and one woman poster complained about it - she did get summarily dogpiled and flamed into oblivion by both the men and the What About the Menz?!! White Knight Battalion Women's Auxiliary.
Edited 2012-10-20 10:46 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2012-10-20 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I have seen it several times and usually the people who got dogpiled where those who disagreed. In fact i have seen it here on fandomsecrets,so excuse me if don't believe even one word of your bullshit. And before you start, I'm a woman and I'm full of contept for hypocrites who "believe" in equal rights and duties and then go on saying we shouldn't bother because they weren't oppressed? That's not how it works. If you advocate equality, you need in in every space, not just those for females.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-20 02:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't think you have the ability to accurately gauge the response to certain things.

Keep in mind: people with bullshit opinions tend to be a) louder and more persistent than people with more moderate opinions (which can be difficult to notice in an anon comm) or b) trolls.

So forgive me if I don't think a few douche-bags-likely-trolls foaming at the mouth on rare occasions is comparable to the shit women can go through in male-dominated areas if anyone catches drift of the fact that they're OMG A Woman.

THIS

(Anonymous) 2012-10-20 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I immediatly thought of the woman from Feminist Frequency who wanted to do a series on misogyny in the gaming industry and what happened? Gamer dudes threatetend to rape her or beat her up. She received thousands of "get back into the kitchen, there is no misogyny in gaming" type of comments, gamer dudes found out her address and phone number and harrassed her IRL and last but not least, a dude created a popular online game that consisted of beating her to death.

And all that happened just because she announced the series. Not a single episode had been made yet.

What about Brony fandom and Yamino, who is STILL target of hate and death threats, even though Hasbro officials have announced she had nothing to do with the change of "Derpy".

What about that rapist in Brony fandom, who got backed up by hundreds of Co-Bronies just because he was male and "all women lie about rape".

And people actually talk about evil women trying to keep men out of fandom?
These women are a.) a minority and b.) have no power at all to achieve their "goal".

Re: THIS

(Anonymous) 2012-10-20 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Different anon than anyone else.

I hate this argument. Equality for all means all. Doesn't matter WHICH group is doing it. Minority, majority or a single person. Everyone should be Called Out. You don't automatically get a pAss for bad behavior just because you are minority. That does nothing but confound the problem.

Re: THIS

(Anonymous) 2012-10-20 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
With the difference that when men create "safe spaces" it's treehouses they need to make rape jokes and talk sexist trash about women without getting called out on it. When women create "safe spaces" it's because they want to avoid the harassment they usually face through men.

Treating both cases equally is impossible because their motivations are completely different.
It's like calling a black person out on shouting "black power" just because white people get called out when shouting "white power".
This kind of "equality" belongs into MRA territory.

But of course I agree on everything that was said in this thread about women randomly declaring an ENTIRE FANDOM to be their "safe space". That's plain unfair and also kind of childish.

Re: THIS

(Anonymous) 2012-10-20 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
See, that's not what I see it. Calling out "black power" and "white power" doesn't hurt anyone. In theory, at least. It does have the ABILITY to hurt someone, sure, depending on context. Everything does.

Telling a woman she should be raped, or a man that he can't take part in a fanfiction forum, are both transgressions against people enjoying themselves. Sure, the magnitude of "you should be raped" is a hell of a lot greater than "you can't be here. Go away. This is OUR sandbox". Not denying that. However, both things hurt someone. One by threatening safety, the worse of the two, and one by saying someone doesn't have the right to have fun even if they're not actually misbehaving (well, actually BOTH circumstances are doing that). What the people who defend this behavior from women are basically saying is "Well, men treat you like crap. Therefore it's ok for you to treat COMPLETELY DIFFERENT men like crap back"

Fandom is not real world, but if the magnitudes were the same I would see it as basically saying to women that because men pay them worse and harass them at work, it would be ok for them to hold up a convenience store owned by a man they've never met.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-21 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
Male dominated fandoms harass EVERYONE. You give them something to latch onto and they will tear you apart if you show weakness. If you don't react you become uninteresting. I'm going to wager 95% of the time they don't mean a single thing they say because that seems to be how a lot of guys act in groups. Talk shit, don't mean it. To me it's often therapeutic.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-22 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
there's a huge difference between calling another guy a fag online (which is homophobic and pretty much just proves that lots of men in fandom are privileged, oppressive pieces of shit) and threatening to rape a woman, yelling at her to show her tits, or harassing her in a variety of other ways.

Because, guess what, unless the guy actually is gay, he can easily brush it off and move on with his life. For women, we live with the fear we will be abused, raped or looked down upon EVERY DAY OF OUR LIVES.