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LOL protection for unions.

Part of the reason our education system is so fucked up is because teachers' unions have such a disproportionate amount of power that we are nigh unable to reform it. Teachers are not held accountable for their performance because unions contend that such a system would be "unfair," and they mobilize to block any attempts to move in that direction. And teachers who do not want to be unionized have to pay a fucking yearly fee for the privilege. Otherwise, they'll be dismissed.

See, unions have the power to do that, here. If you're looking to get a job that's associated with a union, then you damn well better join the union, whether you want to or not. Because if you're not in the union, then you will NEVER get the pay or hours of your unionized fellows. And, fuck, even if you do join the union, you'll have to spend years proving your loyalty before you get shit. You can be the best damn worker they have, and they'll fuck you in favor of the idiot who can't tell his right foot from his left but who has paid his dues and attended meetings for 20 years.

Union leaders here are like the party bosses of old. And they're allowed to be, because of "union protections."

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Thing is... performance based is also bullshit. Because not all kids can perform at the top. And when some tests are graded based on the top people having the top scores and the rest in proportion...

I agree with this.

i don't understand? you don't think someone who performs better at their job should be better regarded or better remunerated because the under-performer could never live up to it? i do a better job but i should suffer because others' don't have my skills?

not the teachers... the students!

I believe insanenoodleguy means that not all students perform equally well under a given set of circumstances. Therefore, a teacher's apparent skill at teaching can vary widely depending on which students happen to end up in his or her class. Also, if students are graded on a curve, there will always be students who score low, regardless of how well they actually did.

There are also factors teachers cannot control that have to do with students' family, community, and economic situations.

Thank you, articulate anon. This exactly.

This has not been my experience.

Part of the reason our education system is fucked up is because of jackholes who insist on blaming the teachers and teachers' unions for everything that's wrong with the education system instead of looking at the problem of massive underfunding, non-caring administrators, uninvolved parents, lack of school discipline, and unmotivated students.

^ Fixed that for you.

+10000000000000

I gotta agree here. Yes, some bad teachers slip through the cracks, like the one who showed us soft porn in class, but most of the time the problem resides in a lot of other areas. Teachers cannot be blamed for an overall and entirely corrupted system.

In fact, it was watching all the shit my good teachers got for everything that was wrong, even if they had no control or even no connection with the problem, that made me decide against teaching as a career option. I had wanted to be a teacher for years but with the shit they go through? So not worth it.

I had wanted to be a teacher for years but with the shit they go through? So not worth it.

Same. I'm getting a six-figure job first and then retire early to tutor kids for free. Fuck the shit that is the education system.

If you can do that, go for it, anon. Good luck. I hope you achieve your goals.

I'm personally floundering trying to figure out where to take my career now.

I attended a job/career meeting recently. Two of the speakers stood out in my mind. One graduated with an engineering technologist certificate from tech college and is now the CEO of a communications company 20 years later. The other speaker majored in electronics and is now working in systems design. Both got their current jobs by moving up the ranks, gaining experience, and convincing interviewers at companies they want to work for that they DO have what it takes to do the job. Even if the job is something they didn't go to school for.

I don't know what your major is or how much leeway there is in your field. I think as long as you're a good employee and is willing to learn new things and advertise your strengths, you will be fine.

Good luck!

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