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⌈ Secret Post #2121 ⌋

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[Darths and Droids]

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[Captain America & Iron Man]

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[The Walking Dead]

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[Divergent]

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[SPN RPF]

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[Sanctuary]

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[Person of Interest]

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[Last Exile]

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[Hugo Weaving / Sam Neill]

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[Type-Moon]

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[Spec Ops: The Line]

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[Quantum Leap]

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[Tom Hiddleston]

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[Labyrinth]

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[Trent & Mariqueen Reznor, How to Destroy Angels]

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Are you talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_at_Every_Size? Some context and examples might help...

Jesus christ, I hope not. Health at every size? Not every size is healthy! That's a real dangerous attitude.

Not that I want to really jump into this can of worms, but that's not 100% true.

You CAN be healthy at any weight. Does it increase your risk factors for other diseases? Oh hell yes. But that in and of itself does not make you UNHEALTHY.

That doesn't apply to about 90% of people though. You can be an "ideal" weight and still be horrifically unhealthy. Weight is not the be-all, end-all of health.

My understanding of HAES isn't that it's saying that any size is healthy, but that it's advocating focus on health, mental well-being, and respecting your body's needs rather than putting a lot of emphasis on weight and appearance, or losing weight no matter what.

However, it's not a philosophy I'm that familiar with, so I'm not positive if my interpretation is "correct."

That's what I always thought it meant too. That there are ways of encouraging/preserving health at any size.

Yep. That, and HAES appeals to me a little bit because I'm trying to get in better shape, but I don't like how much emphasis is placed just on losing weight. I want to lose some weight, but for me, that's secondary to feeling good and knowing that I'm taking care of my heart.

This. I have obsessive tendencies and I can't really do a numbers-based approach in a healthy, non-destructive way. As a result, I'm concentrating on improving my habits and becoming more physically fit instead. If weight loss happens, cool, but it's not going to be my focus.

It means that size and health are not automatically linked. I mean, look at some of the Olympics weightlifting champions that have been in the news. They would be considered obese but if they're a freaking Olympic champion, I don't think you can say they're unhealthy!

In more day-to-day average person examples... I'm technically obese. I have my weight-related labs closely monitored because I have PCOS and a family history of diabetes. Everything comes back normal, great condition. Docs are constantly O.O because they expect my numbers to be shit. I have a ton of health issues and am disabled but they predated my weight gain. (And honestly, between family genetics of obesity, inability to exercise regularly due to pain disorder, plus pretty much all the meds to treat said pain disorder causing weight gain... yeah. Not a surprise and there are so many factors I can't do anything about it without making my life weight loss, and I'm not willing to do that, especially when it's not affecting my health.)

It's not really about all sizes being healthy, it's that you can't assume based on someone's size that they're unhealthy. This is actually a pretty dangerous attitude for doctors to have that results in a lot of patients receiving poor care, because docs see the weight and don't look further, even if weight has nothing to do with it.

According to BMI a LOT of people are overweight. Most MALE body builders and especially power lifters are over weight. Still most of the people that end up militant fat acceptance people are NOT people that work out, eat specially crafted diets, and avoid processed foods.

As for the everyday example I live with a man that would sooner eat nothing but steak and ice cream and he got bloodwork done and it came out ok and he was using that as an excuse with me as to why he shouldn't have to eat healthier. He doesn't seem to realize that I have to eat what he eats too. Because of his eating habits and him controlling the groceries I have gained 50 lbs. But that's OK you know. He's got good bloodwork.

Oh fuck helling! Can you eat out once in a while and eat small portions of steak and ice cream in the mean time? He might be ok now but it won't be ok when he's got high cholestral and narrowed arteries. You are not the same person as him GDI!

That's... not really an example against HAES though, that's an example of somebody being an asshat. Forcing anyone else to eat foods that are bad for them is just fucked up. :-\

I :| at the bit about the belief system. As in, huh so it's a belief system without any hardcore evidence and facts?

Please note, if people want to be fat I don't care. Their body, not my problem. Unless you're a family member, then of course I'm going to be concerned because we do have a history of heart diseases and cholesterol problems...

You can be skinny and have cholesterol and heart issues. Because those are primarily genetically-determined and not really related to weight at all. My mother's friend, who has always been quite thin and petite had to go fat-free because due to genetics her cholesterol was way up.

Contrarily, heavier people with heart issues are more likely to survive heart attacks than skinny people with heart issues. So... Yeah.

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