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[ SECRET POST #2121 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2121 ⌋

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[Darths and Droids]

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[Captain America & Iron Man]

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[The Walking Dead]

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[Divergent]

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[SPN RPF]

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[Sanctuary]

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[Person of Interest]

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[Last Exile]

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[Hugo Weaving / Sam Neill]

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[Type-Moon]

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[Spec Ops: The Line]

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[Quantum Leap]

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[Tom Hiddleston]

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[Labyrinth]

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[Trent & Mariqueen Reznor, How to Destroy Angels]

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Fat people making excuses about why they're so fat, and attacking any and all medical or science knowledge.

Oh and angry swear filled all caps rants about omg how dare people judge my body or choices, if I want to eat myself into juvenile onset diabetes that's my choice, people are naturally three hundred pounds and the western world doesn't have serious problems represented by the fact that in a generation or two more people will be obese then not.

you sound like a peach. no, i don't have a problem with it then. i support fat acceptance.

I love fat-shaming threads. Tell me more about how much of a terrible person I am because I'm still overweight despite restricting my calorie intake to 700 a day and vigorously working out seven days a week to offset that intake. I enjoy being hated for existing.

Ma'am I'm going to have to arrest you for breaking the laws of physics.

Plz come with me.

This. this so much. I actually got called a whale on the bus the other day, and I currently weigh less than I have in years. I'm on like 4 different meds, strict diet, and exercise, so I don't really understand what it is I'm doing wrong in other people's eyes.

That's not cool.

The way I see it, it's your body, you do what you want with it. If you're not hurting me I don't give a fuck, and people who DO give a fuck need to get over themselves.

What I do have a problem with is when people who subscribed to the HAES philosophy have a problem with other people wanting to lose weight or eat better. Someone saying "I want to exercise more and lose some weight" isn't a value judgment on anyone but themselves. If they say "I want to exercise more and lose some weight, and you should too, fatass," then yes, that's not cool. But someone saying simply that they want to lose some weight isn't offensive. It's also a problem when someone who is grieving over their father dying is told to shut up because they're being a fat-shaming asshole. You can't be sad that someone you love is dying of an illness?

But still, I'm sorry someone said that to you. People need to mind their own damn business.

Is that thing about someone's father dying reference to a specific incident?

Also, I can honestly say that I have NEVER seen anyone treated as badly as my overweight mother, not even non-white, non-straight, non-cis people. Once, she was even weight at a job interview, and subsequently denied the job. It seems that in this day and age, weight is one of the last things people can openly judge others on.

I agree, however, that saying you want to lose weight is not a judgment on anyone else and shouldn't be labeled an "offensive" statement. >.

Yeah, it was a while ago, and it was a curseangel incident.

They weighed your mom at a job interview? I'm... pretty sure that's illegal, actually, unless the interview was for the kind of work where there might be a weight limit (I've heard that if you work in a warehouse you sometimes have to be weighed because the scaffolding and equipment can only hold a certain weight level).

I will admit that I haven't seen so much of this sort of thing in real life. I have seen it on the Internet, but I am also of an average weight so it's possible I could not be attuned to it in the real world.

It was for a standard retail job, and they decided she wouldn't be able to stand for eight hours at a time, so she didn't get the job. It is illegal, but she was young enough that she didn't even know how to protest something like that.

I'm going to say that while it's entirely possible that you just live somewhere where people are nice, you probably don't notice some of the stuff because it's not aimed at you. And there's nothing wrong with that. But I've been spit at more than once, called names on a weekly basis, and on two or three occasions I've had services denied me because the shop owner or whoever was currently in charge didn't want a fat person "advertising" their products or eating their food. People are also more willing to get physically violent with me than they are with more "attractive" women. And I'm seriously NOT THAT FAT. Definitely not in obese range, so I hesitate to think of how bad it must be for those who are more overweight than me.

I don't know if it's where people are nice, it's more like the fact I live in Lawsuit Central. :P

But yeah, fair enough. I could just not be noticing it.

I do hope your mom was able to get a better job in the end.

Haha, yeah, she went on to become a pharmacist, and as a result has a very nice job indeed!

"If you're not hurting me I don't give a fuck"

obesity and the copious amounts of health problems it causes hurts almost everybody who pays taxes, at least to some degree

So you should totally insult overweight people, assault them, spit on them, and/or a combination of all of the above!

That's a rubbish argument. Everyone pays taxes (fat people, too) and it's not fair to exclude one group simply because you don't care about them. I don't have children, I don't care about them and I'm never gonna have any, but I still pay taxes that go to schools, childcare, etc. And that's okay, because everyone pays taxes - therefore, everyone should be allowed to benefit from them when they need it.

Btw, did you know that many obese people never go to the doctors because they're too ashamed, scared and/or can't afford to get treated?

My mother avoids going to the doctor when she needs it, because every single time she does her GP gives her really patronising advice about how she should lose weight, often the standard NHS advice that actually we know is horribly outdated and unrealistic. She's been dieting since she was a teenager, she knows every diet there is, she knows exactly how many calories are in everything she eats (and how many grams of fat, and how many weightwatcher's points, and what its glycaemic load is), she is active (more active than the GP, I suspect).

And still the patronising advice, still the blatant disbelief that she does the exercise she does. She's been dieting since she was a teenager, so actually she's a yoyo dieter who isn't going to lose weight as easily as someone who has never struggled with their weight.

Obesity doesn't cause health problems. Obesity is (potentially) a symptom of larger lifestyle or health issues, such as an unhealthy diet and lack of exercise or thyroid problems.

A person can have a shitty diet and related health problems without ever becoming obese. A person can have a healthy diet and proper exercise and be obese without any health issues.

Stop demonizing the symptom and start focusing on the actual issues, ie. promoting healthy living. Honestly, it's like demonizing everyone with lung cancer for being a drain on the healthcare system, regardless of if they have it from smoking, being a fire fighter, or working with asbestos.

That's not how HAES is supposed to work, and those people need called out. :-\

Being a proponent of fat acceptance and HAES, I believe that if someone is otherwise healthy, there is nothing wrong with being fat. If it's causing health issues, then health comes first, obviously. But that's up to the individual to decide, and the problem is that when you're fat, every fucking person feels like it's okay for them to become armchair doctor and tell you how you'd be so much healthier if you just lost some weight (even if you don't have health issues, or if your health issues are not weight-related).

There are ways to promote HAES without being an asshole, and it sounds like these people haven't figured that out yet.

If you are actually doing this, you might have a thyroid disorder or something. Look into that.

This was my first thought too.

your caloric intake might actually be hurting your goal. if you aren't getting enough calories for the amount of exercise you're doing, your metabolism has probably slowed down immensely to make up for it.

THIS. It boggles my mind that there are still people who don't understand that YOU STILL MUST FUEL YOUR BODY FOR ALL THAT EXERCISE.

Oh, people understand and people disregard. Because if there's anything worse than a fat person, it's a fat person eating. Fat people don't need to eat. This is what I've heard all my life: It's good to be hungry.

Being seen eating just reinforces the thought that I'm a worthless fat ass with no control and no will-power. I love food. It takes a lot of fucking will to not eat in a society where we eat a lot, let me tell you. And, it takes even more to not eat and still get up everyday and work out. (Which I don't do in public because "Ha ha, look at that fat bitch sweating." True story.)

I...don't get this comment. It's like...you're patting yourself on the back for having the will to "not eat" which has pretty much been called out as a very unhealthy, unhelpful thing to do. And having the "will" to get up and work out without eating isn't an indication of strength, it's an indication of stubborn, willful disregard -- as you say -- for science. And that's the nice version of what I want to say.

Signed, another fatty trying to be healthier, but doesn't give a fuck what people think about it.

Juvenile onset diabetes aka type 1 is autoimmune and has NOTHING to do with weight.
At least get your fact straight before talking nonsense.

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