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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-23 06:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #2121 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2121 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Darths and Droids]


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03.
[Captain America & Iron Man]


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04.
[The Walking Dead]


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05.
[Divergent]


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06.
[SPN RPF]


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07.
[Sanctuary]


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08.
[Person of Interest]


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09.
[Last Exile]


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10.
[Hugo Weaving / Sam Neill]


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11.
[Type-Moon]


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12.
[Spec Ops: The Line]


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13.
[Quantum Leap]


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14.
[Tom Hiddleston]


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15.
[Labyrinth]


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16.
[Trent & Mariqueen Reznor, How to Destroy Angels]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 051 secrets from Secret Submission Post #303.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
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[personal profile] silverr 2012-10-23 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I was grumbly about lack of reader feedback for years, until I finally sorted it out for myself - something I'll drop it here in case it helps OP or anyone else.

To me there are two possible parts/modes/aspects to creating fanwork. A person might have either or both of these modes present. ~ First is the "introverted" joy in creation, in the actual crafting. The "writing (or drawing) for yourself" thing. A solo endeavor, satisfying in and of itself. ~ If you enjoy writing drawerfic, that's okay. Really. You don't have to "get up on stage" (i.e., publish) if you don't want to. (Or you can try publishing anonymously, if the content of what you're creating is suited to that.)

The other is, yes, an extroverted, public act. For writing, I think of it as The Storyteller. Art as performance. No audience reaction is painful. (People who have only this aspect active are, imo, only in it for the basking. They don't care if their stuff is crap or not, see any criticism as a flame, and pander as needed.)

I used to get annoyed with myself because I wanted - I enjoyed - both, and because people generally assume that anyone who has that Storyteller aspect is in it only for the attention, insinuating that they're somehow less of an artist. I came to reject this devaluation as bullshit. ~ If you've created something that you had fun making - or something you think could be better - then you DO want to show it to others and hear what they think. ~ And there is nothing wrong with that, either.

tl:dr: Do what's fun for you, and to hell what anyone else thinks.

Edited 2012-10-24 00:14 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2012-10-24 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
I agree--an annoying number of people seem to think the act of creation isn't ~pure enough if you want your stuff to be read and even (god forbid) praised. Also, I wonder if it doesn't have something to do with the fact that fanfiction tends to be a female dominated activity, and there's still a lingering expectation that good women are supposed to be modest and humble and self-deprecating, and that we shouldn't want praise or recognition.
hiyami: (Bunny munch)

[personal profile] hiyami 2012-10-24 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
No, it has more to do with the fact that people who are in it solely for the praise tend to be annoying, always begging for comments, bragging about the ones they get etc. Male or female.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-24 03:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Nice strawman there, conflating what I'm defending--the idea that there's nothing wrong with wanting recognition for your work, and that there's nothing wrong with seeing fanfic you've invested time and care in as work--with "being in it solely for the praise...always begging for comments, bragging about the ones they get."

I'm specifically talking about the idea, which showed up here in the very first comment, that if you want recognition at all, you're Doing It Wrong, because your motives for creativity aren't pure enough.
hiyami: (Bunny munch)

[personal profile] hiyami 2012-10-24 05:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not conflating, I'm only replying to the point about "is it because fandom is a female dominated activity".

I figure I could make a complete answer about eeeeverything, but I don't have that much time.
I agree with you on the fact that you can legitimately write for both yourself and also to be read. But the ones who are in it mostly for the recognition are enough a pain in the ass to garner themselves some criticism without dragging sexism into the equation.